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 Interesting.....do u think Michael Jordan juiced in his day?
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I was talking with my friend about this the other day. We were looking at the poster in my room and we both argued on how he looked like he was a user or not. IN my opinion i think he was a decca or winstrol man. He went from 190 to 215 throughout a carreer of constant running and cardio. Plus he also looks to be extremley lean for gaining that much muscle. ------what do u guys think??     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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GOD DOES NOT JUICE!  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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no way! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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It is said that 90% of all athletes have used some type of performance enhancing drug? I heard that an unbelievable amount of college and NBA players have juice so why not MJ? his teamate scottie pippen looked so fukin cut. why did jordan and pippen always get those cramps before falling to the ground every other game? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I was and still am a jordan fanatic but i would just like to know people's opinions. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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at what point did he go from 190 to 215? i love it when some kid out of college weighing 190 shows up for his first professional game weighing 230 lbs. makes you wonder what they were eating for the off season? ? ? i agree that A/S play a huge role in pro sports. look at the average size of a lineman in the 50's and compare them to the lineman in the 60 and then in the 70's and so on. they are getting fricken huge | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I don't think he did.. but who knows.. i just hate to think of MJ as an AS user.... just me i guess. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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HE WENT FROM 190 TO 215 THROUGHOUT HIS CARREER. NOT IN 1 YEAR. BUT ONE YEAR HE GAINED OVER 10 LBS. THIS IS HARD WHEN DOING THE CARDIO THEY DO. ---AND HIS KEPT ALL OF HIS GAINS??!!!!CMON!!! | ||
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Cool Novice 
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A lot of people don't realise how much of a role genetics play in muscle growth. You can tell MJ is a mesomorph and can easily gain muscle. Also and weight gains will seem like more since he is tall. This will make it seem like a large weight gain but it is not relative to his height. I would severely doubt that he used anabolics. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I wouldnt rule it out, But who really cares as there are a ton of athelets juicin it. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I would just like to see if someone has heard anything or knows for sure if hes juiced. I think its iteresting because it is MICHAEL JORDAN. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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i would say with jumps, and springs like that on him he MAY of used Winnie. swol | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 450 |
Some of you have to remember here that MJ has/had access to some of the finest strength and conditioning coaches in the world. And whoever said it earlier is absolutely correct in their observation that 25 lbs of muscle is really not that much on a 6'6" frame. Now Karl Malone.....that's another story in itself. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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he could have been on something, i never really thought about it when he played though. probably winny for endurance and strength ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Malone seemed to lose alot of weight this past season however, maybe his source dried up..... | ||
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Cool Novice
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David Robinson Kevin Willis Scottie Pippen Karl Malone Alonzo Mourning Etc... Do you think that they do NOT juice? Come
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I think they all do at some time or another for a few exceptions. But i one thing i always noticed was that scottie pippen always cramped up in games as well as jordan. they always went down with muscle cramps which i thought were due to the winstrol. But it is hard to think of Michael doing juice but it is almost clear that he was on it throughout his career. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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You know he juiced, come on...you can't prove it, but you know he has... [This message has been edited by TwinGATs (edited September 10, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
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michael jordan????? come on guys! this is the number one best athlete of this century. mj had so much determination, will-power and the desire to be the BEST, that he would and could do anything to prove it. if he needed to gain 25lbs to more tougher on the boards, then he could have done it easily without juice. he just didnt lay on a sofa all day during the off season. he was in the gym busting his ass everyday to become the best. mj is as pure an athlete as you can get. just like someone mentioned earlier, he has enough money to buy the best conditioning coach money could buy. besides, gaining 25lbs over a 12 year career, isnt that overwhelming. thats 25lbs in 144 months. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Guys maybe he gained all of that weight from all of those ball park franks that he eats,,, you think. | ||
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Cool Novice
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A picture tell you more than 1,000 words....
And the Myth
RETROCEDER NUNCA, RENDIRSE JAMAS. | ||
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Cool Novice
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hey sweetness, i dont give a flock flake flukem if jordan juiced or not. give it an incredibulls, unbelievabulls, for years and for your mom. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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No juice...It's the shoes! Gotta be the shoes! ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
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I read in the paper in the last year that stanozolol (winstrol) and nandrolone (deca) were then just added to the NBA's list of banned substances, so if Jordan was using either of these he was'nt even breaking the league rules. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Speculate all you guys want. It won't make a difference what you think. and why should it matter. It's prob. true that 90% of all top level atheletes in any sport use "preformance enhancing drugs" it's also true that alot of top level atheletes use illegal recreational drugs too! Who gives a fuck: the sust. didn't make the b-ball go through the hoop He gained a WHOPPING 15lbs in his Whole career? "with all that aerobics? please!" Damn I'm 5'7 and I've got 27" quads I must have been on Juice!!!! Jesus Christ!! my .02 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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thats some funny shit ajc. lol side topic: what do you guys think of bruce lee? j/k im 98% sure he did not juice. swol | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Some people have such a personal lack of athletic talent that they have to justify it by convincing themselves that anyone successful in the world of athletics is on something. There are many types of genius. Intellectual, athletic, musical, to name a few. Some, like MJ, happen to fall under the athletic genius. I had a friend in high school(african-american) who was an all state wrestler, and nearly the state champion in the 1 mile run in track. And this guy had the laziest work ethic in the athletic world. His diet consisted of Snickers bars all day long. Yet he had a physique that everyone envied. AS? He didn't have a job and fainted at the sight of needles (I went with him to his college physical). After 6 months of HALF-ASSED training, he broke every record in the city for track, and ran a 4:08 mile in the state finals. This guy was one of those "athletic geniuses" that had all the gifts. Yes, people like this really do exist. And that picture of a pre-pubesint Jordan vs. the present day Jordan....what does that prove? Nice example (LOL). MJ also had the ability to dunk back in high school. I suppose winny gave him his 48" vertical back then too!!! I was bigger than MJ BEFORE I started taking AS. And I have nearly the same bone structure as him. And Bruce Lee DID take AS. It is mentioned in various books about him. He was a health and fitness freak who tried everything. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Multi-Million dollar athletes with access to the worlds best athletic trainers, can anyone consider it implausible that they are not being administered AAS to enhanced their, egos, appearance, strength, which transitions foward to better their games. And what relavence is there to this? Those mother's are gifted physical specimens. The juice made them a little harder, a little stronger, a little more confidant that in combination with their already evident athleticism and you get today's super human athlete. Jordan would still have been jordan with or with out the posibility of juice. But, if your earning millions your in your 30's and you have medical/athletic trainers obviously telling you about the splendors of testosterone, well you can figure out the rest. Shit, I bet Karl Malone is on the board of trustees at UpJohn.  ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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gotta be honest guys, juice can only do so much. i used deca and winny but i sure as hell cant shoot a three point like mj. even if he did do roids who gives a shit. the man is a legend with or without juice as far as im concerned. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I am a huge Jordan fan. He DID NOT JUICE. You all could look like him too (ha ha ha) Only if you had the worlds best athletes genes!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I've kept off this topic because it is an insult to a man I admire. There is no bigger Jordan fan anywhere. I watched Jordan from the 17th row center court of every game he played in Chicago. I bought the piece of the flooring at the free throw line from the Chicago stadium where he took flight to win the slam dunk contest. I have the 5th & 6th Championship rings incased and sitting on my computer monitor right now. I am only writing to point out that MJ shunned those trainers who would have "told him of the splendors of testosterone" that the Bulls had working and hired his own strength trainer from baseball when he made his come back. Jordan on juice WTF. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Ulter u have the 5 and 6th championship rings? what were u on the team?(lol) I also happen to own a piece of the floor at the stadium. 100 bucks for it. Any way i am the biggest fan of michael in new york and believe with or with out AS michael is the greatest athlete of alltime. In my opinion he does have the best genetics i have ever seen. But what i said was that his physic changed dramatically while in the league. He might of only gained 25 lbs. but look at pictures of him from 1990-1992. Big differnce. And then in 1996 he came back a much differnt looking jordan. Now, when u get older isn't hard to put on weight and maintain it. Pile that onto the fact of mike having to do intense cardio every day of his old life and he still looks that good? I guess i can't say i know but it is obvious that Mike would have been offered it by his coaches....or pippen (heheh). | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I'm tellin' ya...It's the shoes. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Well we know for a fact that Reggie Miller has never come within 50feet of Juice. He looks sickly. All the time. As for Jordan I don't think he did He has the mind set to do anything he wants. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Why are you people demonizing this issue, like its some sort of blasphemy? This issue is beyond intellectual control and purely emotional now. It really bares no significance on the mans athletic genius, or anyone for that matter. You people make me think about the idiots that say athletes on testosterone are "cheating". If anyone is, was, or ever will be on hormone replacement and at the same time they occupy a position in one of the major sports of the world, WHO CARES? Ben Johnson may have been a moron for thinking he wouldnt get caught, but I would literally be embarassed to discuss this issue with you if you denied the fact that he was one of track & fields most explosive runners. Forget that nonsense, "IT WAS THE STANAZOL, IT WAS THE STEROIDS, WAA, MAAA". It was God given genetic superiority along with better chemsitry yielding a superior athlete. THERE IS NO FUCKIN SHAME BEHIND THAT. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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no way in hell | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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As for MJ, we cant even classify him as or identify him with using AS, its not highly likely, and it can be highly possibe, maybe for injuries or a rehab!!!!!!! What about Alonzo Mourning? and Charles Barkley on National TV said Charles Oakley used AS. Man the wwf....more than any, NFL not far behind, and baseball players stack with nicotine, and other shit. Well Tracksters........can you say I have a rottweiler farm!!!!!!!!!! Look bottom line.... if you use, you know what its about, the highs the lows, and the dangers, but do the dangers outweigh the positives? [This message has been edited by c-dizzo (edited September 11, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Steady supply of winny-v and low dose of HGH later in his career. Believe it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Steel if you don't know why it's blasphemy then I can't explain it to you. Actually ItalianSweetness I have all of them. I just have the last 2 sitting on my computer. The team allowed Club Level Season Ticket Holders to buy them incased in acrylic. You have a piece of the floor, I have a piece of the foul line, authenticated. One more thing.. there are no MJ fans in New York. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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GH?????? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Shit how do u think he learned how to fly, haha juice make u fly. i think he did, but i think alot of people see him as a positive role model, so they dont wana believe that we would ever cheat. but i dont even think using steroids in sports is cheating, because if every1 has access to it, then its not. think of it as writing a test, and the answers on the board. 95% of those people writing it will look up and copy the answer but the other 5% with their upstanding morals will keep their eyes glued to the test. and those are the 5% that will have the lowest grade. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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i dont blame him even if he did it is so excecable to pro atheletes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that MJ relied on his athleticism during his younger years, BEFORE he bulked up. In his 30's, he relied on his intelligence and knowledge of the game. If you don't believe me, go back and watch some old games. During his first few seasons, he was always driving and dunking. During the tail end years of his career, he shot more jumpers. He was incredibly intelligent on the court. I am from Chicago originally so I admit to a possible bias. But I watched his games in their entirety....not just the highlight reels like the rest of the country during the average regular season game. There are brilliant players and then there are marginal players. Some rely on their intelligence and some rely on athleticism (like Allen Iverson). MJ relied on BOTH! And for all those Winstrol advocates....exactly how do you effectively cycle to perform at that level for an 82 game season?!?!?!? Remember the concept of increasing dosages and decreasing returns? People who accuse someone of MJ's talent of using AS THROUGHOUT his career are just as guilty as those skinny punks who claim that if they had gear they would be huge by sitting on the couch. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Ulter....i understand u are from chicago but that doesnt' make u any more of a fan than me. THat was emotional, to say there is no MJ fans in new york. I am the one who had to stand up to all these knick fans throughout the years. If i was in chicago i would be sittin in the 2nd row all year round havin to answer to nobody. I KNOW MJ IS THE MOST GENETICALLY GIFTED MAN, he is also my idol this is a very emotional subject..i'm starting to cry right now. Checkmatebloated........i am very interested . Please elaborate on how u know this. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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There are no emotional Italians there either. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I bet he has done some form of drug. Cocaine probably! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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This bares no relevence to this issue. I quit watching basketball the day after their seventh trophy was captured. I got to meet the man as a child, I really didnt understand the significance of that, and I sure as hell wanna know where that damn basketball he signed is, but man watching that man play basketball on TV; I don't think I will ever be excited over sports as I was while I watched him play. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Damn right sweetness, about 90-95% of all professional athletes use them. Hey good for them, so do I they can just afford them better. Dos'nt meen he did but most do. [This message has been edited by toby (edited September 12, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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twistedsteel......right on. I was never as excited if i watched games other than michael's. especially 1992 vs. trailblazers. (6, 3-pointers in the first half, wow.) Checkmate.....how do u know that? reply asap. also u got mail. |
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posted September 10, 2000 05:42 PM
