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Bullgator

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posted September 10, 2000 02:47 PM

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Man i wish i was had found this board about a year and a half ago. I have learned so much from reading the posts. Anyways about that time i was experimenting with AS, but had little knowledge and i did a small oral cycle of dbol. Even though i grew i know now that it was pretty a ignornant approach to using As. Since i have read that your first time is always the greatest, will it still be possible for me to reap the huge gains off my first inject test cycle?

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cantgetlayed

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posted September 10, 2000 02:52 PM

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bro, you can still achieve phenominal results. Not quite like a first cycle could've brought you. But if you learn how to eat a lot of quality foods, you could gain 30lbs. no problem. But 30 is exceptional, you need to eat tons of food, train unbelievabley hard, and get your rest every night. Good luck, email me if you have questions

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2Thick

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posted September 10, 2000 03:01 PM

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I personally do not subscribe to the theory that states "you get your best gains on your first cycle."

As cantgetlayed stated, I think that you get great gains if you do everything (such as diet, training and rest) correct.

Maybe you get a slightly better reaction the first time you use a certain kind of compound (i.e. Deca, Primo, Single Testosterone Esters, Multiple Test Esters...etc.) but you can make great steady gains throughout your AS career.

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Dark Stalker

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posted September 10, 2000 03:03 PM

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I tought the same thing.. that your gains are the best at your first cycle !?

2thick: what do you think ?


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Dark Stalker

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posted September 10, 2000 03:26 PM

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Bump...


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2Thick

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posted September 10, 2000 03:35 PM

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My first cycle was Primobolan depot at 200mg/week for 8 weeks. I gained and kept 10 pounds.

My second cycle ever was a 10-week Deca cycle with moderate dosages. I gained 23 and kept 17.

Your gains should not change as long as you do everything right.

Some of the gains will be adipose tissue and I work to get rid of it at the end of the cycle. So I average about 8-10 pounds of LBM per bulking cycle. That is over the whole time I have been using.


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Dark Stalker

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posted September 10, 2000 03:40 PM

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2thick: Did you use clomid through the entire cycle or just at the end + 2 weeks after last shot ?


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2Thick

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For primo, I did not use Clomid.

For Deca cycles, I always use Clomid for 2 weeks starting 10 days after my last shot. I also start clen at the same time. I have recently seen great results with using PGF2 after the clen.

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Dark Stalker

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posted September 10, 2000 03:49 PM

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I'm wondering about taking clomid while on cycle... I would hope to keep my balls intact. Is cloimid too toxic or should I do it ?


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2Thick

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posted September 10, 2000 03:53 PM

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I had a friend who tried it for a Sust/Anavar cycle and was not impressed by the results. He will be only using it post-cycle from now on.

It is not toxic and you can do it if you are worried about too much water retention.

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