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The Ranger

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posted September 09, 2000 08:56 AM

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OK...You got this far, and this topic is a continuation of 2Thick's post on why Sus or Deca by itself is a waste....

You could never pick 2 individuals and get the same results on any cycle due to the fact that everyone's make up is vastly different!!!

So, .... Cloning!!! It's a very hot topic right now...My experiment would be as follows, and just to see the information and the results to settle it once and for all(Yeah Right)!!

You have cloned the Genetic Freak of a lifetime, 2 perfect individuals of the exact same DNA, and genetics....

1st Clone does 10 weeks of sus 250 at 500mg's per week.......

2nd Clone does 500mg's(gotta make it equal as possible people, go with me here) of Deca for 10 weeks.

Their meals are prepared exactly the same, and they eat the same food everyday for the duration of the cycle....Everything is identical, even down to the supplements....!!

At the end of 10 weeks..Who gains the most? 1 month later who's weight and lean muscle mass will be greater?

Of course you already know my answer....Clone 1 Hands down!!!!

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ulter

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posted September 09, 2000 09:29 AM

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Ranger, Are you still up from last night or did you wake up with this idea?


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The Ranger

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posted September 09, 2000 09:40 AM

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Heh heh heh....coming down off GHB....weird shit, but it makes ya think...eh??

Also, I think the SUS clone will gain much more weight on his cycle...but, post cycle clone 2 will gain ground.....BUT, in the end....The Deca clone will be sucking hind tit on this one....heh heh heh.....

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ulter

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posted September 09, 2000 09:50 AM

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The thing about your idea is that it IS the only way you could scientifically conduct such study. Except for maybe identical twins with the same physical stats.

Now if only cloning were legal and we could wait 25 years for them to grow up.


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M!KAI

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posted September 09, 2000 10:31 AM

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Bro's,

Maybe we could get hold of some cloned Lab Rats or monkeys only hard thing would be getting them to lift..!

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Bjaarki

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posted September 09, 2000 11:04 AM

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Ranger: Interesting idea, your "experiment."

It might make your day to know that this kind of imaginary scenario, called a "thought experiment" in physics, is how Einstein did all his best research. Even the Theory of Relativity was the result of a "thought experiment" not too different from yours, Ranger.

Hey, you must be some kind of genius, man!

Be well, and lift heavy, brothers.

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DREXX

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posted September 09, 2000 11:08 AM

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Bump for Ranger my main man!!!


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Jeff_rys

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posted September 09, 2000 11:51 AM

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He Ranger, we should go further. After the first cycle and after marking the statistics, both clones get a cleanup for 3 months and then we switch clone 1 to Deca and clone 2 to Sust.
Will they both have gained the same after the 2 cycles ?
What i try to say is: after the first cycle both clones will not be the same as when they where a "virgin".
So will this interfere with the second cycle gains ?
What do you think ?

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The Ranger

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posted September 09, 2000 02:28 PM

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Khule idea Jeff,
And we would use PGF2A as a bridge between cycles...of course injections would be identical as well!!!

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Decaman

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posted September 09, 2000 03:32 PM

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SUCKING HIND TIT. BOOOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSS.

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SUST-MAN

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posted September 09, 2000 05:41 PM

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Bump...

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bgriff

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posted September 09, 2000 07:46 PM

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Yhats a wierd one bro!!!

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posted September 09, 2000 08:07 PM

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"Hey, you must be some kind of genius, man!" - Bjaarki


There's a fine line between genius and insanity, heh heh heh!!!!!!


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Bjaarki

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posted September 09, 2000 08:52 PM

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I'm not surprised by Decaman's "SUCKING HIND TIT. BOOOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSS."

I knew Decaman was gonna hate this!!! You're really stepping on the Decadude's toes here, Ranger! He's a cool guy, man! Tread lightly!

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Decaman

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posted September 09, 2000 09:57 PM

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Ole Ranger loves to stir Decaman up doesn't he? hehe. Btw I am gonna email you, we need to rap bro.

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tbigg82

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posted September 09, 2000 10:21 PM

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like i said in the other post sus by itself worked for me.


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300 kleen

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posted September 09, 2000 10:48 PM

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It's easy guys. Just randomly pick 10 men for each side. 10 guys do the sus and 10 guys do the deca, then you take the average.

I also think that Clone 1 (sus) will be ahead during the cycle. But he will also have more water retention, more sides, and a larger crash at the end.

Clone 2 will equal Clone 1 by 5-8 weeks after the cycle.

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td24

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posted September 09, 2000 11:21 PM

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Thus saying the two together is a great stack!


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Jeff_rys

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posted September 10, 2000 04:51 AM

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Stacking gives you the advantage of cutting the sides. Also if you don't know which roids works best for you and you stack, maybe you get a better benefit of it.
Everyone should (in theory) do cycles of Sust, Deca and all the other roids by itself. Then one would know which roids give bests results. Then eventually stacking them.
Or even better, future wise speaking, if they just could tell us through DNA tests or whatever tests which roids work best per individual, wouldn't that be nice.

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beef77

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posted September 10, 2000 07:49 AM

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That shit sounds like a MUSCLETECH ad. Were do you work?


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Jeff_rys

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posted September 10, 2000 09:47 AM

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Who do you ask the question ?

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ulter

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posted September 10, 2000 10:10 AM

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Forget it jeff_ He doesn't know who you are.


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LEGEND

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posted September 10, 2000 11:04 AM

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ranger you need some sleep bro. and 300klen excellent point. i hate to see deca get a bad rap. i love the stuff!!!!!

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Jeff_rys

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posted September 10, 2000 11:12 AM

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Will do that Ulter.

It seems that we have a disagreement here since the Ranger states that Sust will win hands down. 300 Kleen thinks Deca would be the winner. I am with the Ranger here Kleen. I never used Sust but used Deca and i could not keep the gains. Worse taking Primobolan (talking about a girl's roid) i gained over the Deca (pur muscle gains).
Sorry Decaman, i only try to be honest in my opinion.

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The Ranger

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posted September 10, 2000 12:16 PM

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i think Deca yields great results in some, I do not like it personally, and my personal opinion should not sway those who, and who intend to use it.....heh heh heh....BUT, then again.....Sus(test) will get ya BIGGER!!!

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posted September 10, 2000 02:11 PM

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Stack both in a cycle, I would have regreted not doing so.Got some crazy ass gains, sus is probably my favorite but the deca was some damn good shit as well.Price is the worst part of doing deca........

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dynoalbino

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posted September 10, 2000 02:18 PM

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well my brother just did a sust/dbol stack and went from 165 to 205 and maintaining at 195. so he got a net gain of 30 pounds. i am gonna start a deca/dbol cycle and i will keep you all updated


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Decaman

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I will not get into the defense of "THE BEST OVERALL STEROID FOR A MAN TO USE" Like ranger siad it works better for some than others. No Deca bashing ya fucker

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posted September 10, 2000 04:03 PM

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sus by its self is not a waste


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Don't forget to subtract the respective weights of titties and enlarged prostates. Also, dig the hair out of the two clones drains and add that. Make sure the clones don't have their wallets in their back pockets when you weight them too. That will make a big difference.

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