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Painkiller

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 234
From:Norway
Registered: Mar 2000

posted September 09, 2000 06:22 AM

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WELL....NOT EXACTLY...

THIS IS A POST BY Q ON THE ROCKS BOARD...I GOT HIS PERMISSION TO POST IT HERE.


"A week ago I was reading an article on hormone replacement therapy, in the article it stated that women you are going through menopause or on estrogen replacement should not smoke since nicotine lowers estrogen levels. From reading this I decided to try to find out more about its anti estrogenic effects. From searching the web I found a whole slew of positive effects of nicotine. Most of the info I am writing comes from the Hippo, Hippo II and Fate of nicotine in the body reports. These are studies done on nicotine in the late 70�s.
Nicotine as an Anti-estrogen/Anti-aromatase

Nicotine works in two ways to lower estrogen levels. First it is an anti-aromatase like arimadex. Nicotine has been shown to inhibit the conversion of androstenedione and testosterone into estrogen in a study by the University of Utah School of medicine. Also unlike novadex or clomid nicotine is a true anti estrogen and not just an estrogen blocker. By this I mean that nicotine actually speeds up the degradation of blood estrogen levels. So nicotine causes a reduction in estrogen production and also decreases existing estrogen levels.

Regulation of hormone levels

When Nicotine is used on a daily basis it stabilizes the Adrenal hormones by acting on the Hypothalamus, which affects the pituitaries release of regulating hormones and increases GH release. This keeps various hormone levels stable during times of depression, or stress. That is why a smoker can have a cigarette in the morning to wake up and one at night to help relax.

When you stop using nicotine your whole endocrine system gets f_cked up. Your cortisone, and adrenaline levels take a nosedive until your natural hormone regulation takes control again. Fortunately nicotine does not seen to have a negative effect on GH release upon cessation.

Getting your natural hormone levels back in order takes about two weeks. As body builders we can use this to our advantage. When you stop a cycle you can start using nicotine. This will quickly reduce the high cortisone levels to a normal level. After coming off nicotine you can start a new cycle and take advantage of the low cortisone levels for the first two weeks

Nicotine as a smart drug
Nicotine is a cholinergic agonist and mimics the effects of acetylcholine. It also has been shown to increase levels of neurotransmitters dopamine, nor-epinephrine, and serotonin. Dopaminergic neurons are linked to reward pathways and pleasure while serotonergic neurons are associated with anti-anxiety.
This effect may explain the addicting property of nicotine. But they also seem to have some nootropic benefits. Studies have shown that mice perform better on mentally strenuous tasks after being given Nicotine. Nicotine also causes a release of vassopresin. This hormone is the hormone that helps imprint thoughts into long-term memory.
Help with PGF2a

In one study nicotine was able to reduce the side effects of the prostaglandin PGF2a. In isolated canine retinal arteries partially contracted with PGF2� nicotine was added and resulted in the relaxation of those arteries without affecting the other effects of PGF2a. So in theory nicotine can be added to a PGF2a cycle to decrease intestinal discomfort.

Nicotine also seems to cause a release of prostaglandins, which favors the good prostaglandins like PGF2a.

Fat loss properties:

One study stated that Nicotine was possibly the most effective anti obesity drug available at the time that the study was performed (late 70�s). Nicotine has various properties that help in weight reduction while sparing muscle.

Reduced appetite:
Nicotine inhibits food intake via three mechanisms, first it elevated Adrenalin and Nor-adrenalin levels which reduces appetite. Next Nicotine itself has been shown to reduce the craving for carbohydrates. Great addition to a ketogenic diet.

Thermogenic effects:
The release of Adrenalin and Nor-adrenalin also cause a thermogenic effect similar to that of ECA.

Actual fat reduction:
Nicotine stimulates a very rapid mobilization of fatty deposits. This happens as quickly as 10 minutes after administration. The lipids are mobilized and free fatty acids are released in the blood stream in great amounts. The free fatty acids diminish quickly due to an unknown action of nicotine. Nicotine seems to help the body use the FFA�s for energy in an accelerated fashion.

To recap Nicotine has an eight-fold weight loss effect on the system.

1. Reduction of overall appetite
2. Reduced craving for carbs
3. Thermogenic effect
4. Fatty deposit mobilization
5. Stimulation of FFA degradation
6. Estrogen reduction
7. Prostaglandin release
8. Growth hormone release
Negative aspects of Nicotine:
I have talked about all the good things that nicotine does but what are the negative effects? Well I know everyone is thinking cancer right? Wrong, nicotine is not the cancer-causing agent in cigarettes. It is just the addictive chemical that makes you intake the 2000 or so carcinogens in tobacco. I am not talking about smoking here; use the gum or the patches. Nicotine does have some negative effects though:
Negative effects of Nicotine:
1. Decreased Vit. C
2. Decreased Vit. E
3. Increased VLDL
4. Decreased HDL
5. Addictive properties
So to counteract these just make sure you take extra vitamin C and E and watch your saturated fat intake. As for the addictive properties well that�s up to you."

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"This is my first cycle I already took sustanon250 1cc five times .I plan on taking every five days 6 times every 3 days 8 times every five days 6 times." - roidrage 187/211


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moondog

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posted September 09, 2000 06:44 AM

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Well I guess that makes my tin-a-day Copenhagen habit a little more justifiable . . .


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Painkiller

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posted September 09, 2000 07:46 AM

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hehe...just remember that this is based on pure nicotine!!

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"This is my first cycle I already took sustanon250 1cc five times .I plan on taking every five days 6 times every 3 days 8 times every five days 6 times." - roidrage 187/211


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moondog

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posted September 09, 2000 07:49 AM

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How else am I supposed to get greens in my diet!?!?!


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Painkiller

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posted September 09, 2000 08:10 AM

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greens? anyway:
"I am not talking about smoking here; use the gum or the patches."

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"This is my first cycle I already took sustanon250 1cc five times .I plan on taking every five days 6 times every 3 days 8 times every five days 6 times." - roidrage 187/211


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whodaman

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posted September 09, 2000 09:13 AM

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hmmmm....I quit chewing last year. The article kinda makes me wanna go out and buy a tin of Kodiak! Yummy


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Diver

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posted September 09, 2000 10:13 AM

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where is my skoal wintergreen anyway??

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spaceghost

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posted September 09, 2000 10:46 AM

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and to think that I quit that nasty habit of smoking 2 years ago because dying from lung cancer didn't sound that great......


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SUST-MAN

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From:CRESSKILL, NJ
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posted September 09, 2000 05:21 PM

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Bump...

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mikecsa

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posted September 09, 2000 07:55 PM

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NICE!! looks like i'll have to join the rest of the players on my team and start chewin or dippin. why couldnt arimidex be as cheap as a pack of stoker's peach!!

mike


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WODIN

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted September 09, 2000 09:20 PM

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Yeah use nicotine, more addictive than Heroin. You'll just love the shakes, shits, rages and all the other crap from that withdrawl.


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Verbal Gorilla

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posted September 10, 2000 09:06 PM

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F*** man!!
1. Nicotine is not more addictive than heroine...period...go ask someone who has tried heroin.

2. Does anyone have a god damn intelligent opinion on the article. I am all for the jokes, but are there any people actually interesed in learning about this sport still left in this forum.

Damn, Painkiller...I was also interested in what the response would be, but I guess this is why I don't post at all here. I'll see you back where we can get some real info...

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