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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 56 |
Here is my idea for the next few months. I am nearing the end of my first cycle. D-bol/Sustenon. I am going to come off of it witht three weeks of clomid post cycle. After that i am going to do another d-bol/sustenon or other test cycle. I will wait just one week after i am done with the clomid from my first cycle. After this cycle, i will hit 2 post weeks of clomid, then hit a cutting cycle 2 weeks after that of winny/eq/anavar/fina. What do you guys think. I heard the real deal on receptors, and the word is the don't ever downgrade. So i am going to start each cycle when i think my natural test is kiciking back in, what do you think?     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 305 |
i really am not educated enough to say if what you are doing is right or wrong but i would say that you are going to get alot of negative feedback on that. Most people tend to think you need time off between cycle... its pretty stressful on your body bro'... but hey it is your body. im gonna bump for info for ya. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 168 |
Receptors don't downgrade? Who says that's "the real deal"? I think you need to take equal amount of time off as was your cycle. T Bone | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
Yeah, i have always heard the rule of thumb is time on=time off. But i recently had a few reliable friends talk to doctors, and pharmacists all that said receptors don't really downgrade. I need to pick it up majorly, that's why i am opting for the cycles so close together | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 435 |
My personal stategy is to wait until my post-cycle acne goes away. I use that to gauge my natural test levels in their normalization. It usually takes about 5-8 weeks for all the acne on my back and shoulders to subside, which coincides with the typical on time of a cycle. If your test levels are constantly suppressed, even slightly, you are asking for trouble down the road. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 253 |
Bump... ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 312 |
I say as long as your blood work comes back clean , go for it . I dont believe in receptor downgrade , but i do believe in diminishing returns with excessive dosages. I generally put my animals on for 12 weeks and off for 4 , more to give the liver and kidneys a break . Also " bridgeing" with GH and small dosages(under 400mg/week)of primo never hurt . | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 791 |
Whether androgen receptor downregulation occurs or not has nothing to do with getting your HPTA to normal. Just getting to the point where your body is producing sufficient testosterone is not indicative of optimal enocrine function. If you want to take such brief off periods, my advice would be to end your cycles with fast-acting drugs, so your time off is really time off. I'm not saying I oppose brief down times, just offering a practical solution. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 152 |
good luck | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
I'm not so much worried about the down time between the mass and cutting cycle becuse i wont be taking AS that will supress nat. test. Do you guys think i should hit the cutting cycle first before i hit the second mass cycle. Or do the second mass cycle, then the cutting cycle? My reasoning for this would be: If i take the winny/eq/fina/anavar cycle first, i could do that right after my clomid is over. Then by the time the cutting cycle is over, i would be ready for another mass cycle. The thing i am worried about is my bf% going back up on the mass cycle... What should i do? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 348 |
I'd hit the cutting cycle before the 2nd mass cycle and I'll tell you why. You'll be dieting on the cutting cycle, probably pretty strictly, after dieting for so long a dramatic increase in calories will result in dramatic growth, plus you wont have the fat. This is what competing bodybuilders know as the "rebound effect" they blow up like baloons after a contest because their bodies, which are use to the low calorie diet, suddenly have this abundance of nutrients to use. Hope this makes sense. good luck ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
I think you should take more time between cycles. Your natural test. levels will not restore that quick. |
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posted September 09, 2000 02:17 AM