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Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
Trophobolene by Theramex monaco-france .. Composition: Ok, I have exahusted my avenues, perhaps someone would care to enlighten me on the chemical properties behind this anabolic? I ran across a Duchaine article which briefly mention that this was Frenchmen Serge Nubret's favorite compound. FYI, Serge was the one who placed second behind Arnold last Legitamet olympia win. The black man who beat out Louie for the second spot in Pumping Iron. Obviously the terms "estradiol" and "progesterone" are involved, so that further peeks my curiosity
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Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 455 |
sorry bro, but ill bump for you. im@LRG | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 101 |
Yes i have heard he used that as well. I believe that low levels of estrogen will promote growth when mixed with higher levels of testosterone,Again I am not 100 % on this but have done some reading and talked to an old friend of mine..hope this helps.. tank | ||
Moderator Posts: 3918 |
Just so you know bro, i'm looking into this, but i'm in there oestradiol (E2) so it must make you grow!! heh heh
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Moderator Posts: 3918 |
Anyone speak swedish, i'm sure there are a few on here TROPHOBOLENE. | ||
Moderator Posts: 3918 |
Ok so what i've found out is that the oestradiol is a very strong oestrogen. oestrogen A generic term for oestrus producing steroid compounds, the female sex hormones. In humans, oestrogen is formed in the ovary, possibly the adrenal cortex, the testis and the foetoplacental unit, it has various functions in both sexes. It is responsible for the development of the female secondary sex characteristics and during the menstrual cycle it acts on the female genitalia to produce an environment suitable for the fertilization, implantation and nutrition of the early embryo. Oestrogen is used in oral contraceptives and as a palliative in cancer of the breast after menopause and cancer of the prostate, other uses include the relief of the discomforts of menopause, inhibition of lactation and treatment of osteoporosis, threatened abortion and various functional ovarian disorders.
As for the norandrostenolone udnecanoate all i could find for now is this http://www2.biam2.org/www/Sub1235.html and this which is the norandrostenolone decanoate, which is just nandrolone decanoate. That's my guess at 1am.
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 226 |
I can't really figure out the pharmacology of trophobolene. But the bodybuilders where I live just love it. Also women bb use it alot here. It seems to cause less masculinity in women. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 162 |
If you'd like to send me some, I'd be happy to try it out on my little brother mikey. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 226 |
No, but you can send me mikey and I'll try it on him and tell u what happens. Hope he has good genes. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 162 |
You can have him. I was just kidding, making a reference to the old Life cereal commercial. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 169 |
PROPERTIES: each of its 3 components has its specific contribution p.n.o is an original vitamin-steroid molecule , its responsible for the tissue trophic activity of the drug and its powerful bone tropism. U.N.A is the anabolic and anti catabolic agent wich brings back, and at the same time saves the protien and calcium used for the building of living tissue H.O.P is the sodium ddepletion factor and the catalyst for the interctions of the steroids trophobolene has a distinct effect on cellular proliferation,vascularisation and tissue protection,thus trophobolene has an intensive vascular,conjuctive and epithlial tropism. INDICATIONS:
WARNING:
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Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
I called out some of the big guns on this one, waiting for their response. Wheres Cockdezl when one needs him. Concrete_Mass's post was helpful, but It really didnt give me an idea of this drugs effectivness as a muscle building agent. Thanks for your input E2, Ill be adding my results to this thread once their e-mailed to me so to satisfy our mutual curiosity. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 582 |
E2 you are verry good at swedish or is it your swedish girlfriend who write this! lol ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 255 |
Bump... ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
Jumbo Polumbo pulls through in the clutch once more. Here is a copy of our e-mail exchange. Its not the final word yet, but his input goes a Looooong way.
Expression de la composition : par unit� de prise, soit pour : Principes actifs ESTRAPRONICATE 1.30 mg
As you so wisely noted, TROPHOBELENE, in addition to containing the DAVE ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 339 |
Trophobolene is a strange drug combination and few have any experience with it. I, also, read the story concerning Serge Nubret's use of it, from some members of misc.fitness.weights. CONCRETE's post was useful to determine its medical use. It seems to be used as an anabolic, cardioprotectant, and/or osteogenic agent. The estradiol is for cardioprotection, probably through blood lipid modification. The combo of nandrolone and estradiol are for bone modification, while the progesterone is to offset the sodium retention that occurs with use of the other two agents. Duchaine did speculate about its use, and stated that it maybe a useful precontest drug. One, progesterone increases lipolysis and free fatty acid levels, which causes a slight insulin insensitivity. This is NOT useful normally, but when dieting, it helps reduce muscle protein catabolism and favors fat utilization. Also, progesterone is ketogenic and thermogenic; Duchaine commented on this latter effect stating it was due to an effect on Uncoupling Protein 2, but I have not been able to confirm this. Progesterone, also, decreases sodium reuptake by the kidneys, so there is a diuretic effect by it. If it can overcome the effects of estradiol and nandrolone is beyond me, but this seems to be what CONCRETE has shown in his post. One would assume a high risk of gyno with a estrogen/progestin combo, but I have heard of people state that they never experienced this with Trophobolene. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
Dezl, thank you. Hmm, the obvious need for an aromatase inhibitor is apparant. If one were to incoorporate, Arimidex daily, potentially the undesireable sides could be effectivly negated? One would still benefit from the increased state of lipolysis, yes?
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Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1161 |
I'm going to bump this one back up as it has some incredible info.Cockdezl,any more input you could offer regarding TS'S last question? | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 339 |
TWISTED, the use of a aromatase inhibitor would be useless with this drug, since there is nothing to inhibit. The estrogen is already present as estradiol propionicotinate (1.3mg) and the amount of conversion of nandrolone undecanoate to estrogen is low. An estrogen blocker, such as Clomid or Nolvadex would be more appropriate. But this still leaves two progestagenic drugs. You think Deca gyno is a problem, add in real progesterone. This is a weird drug, indeed. |
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