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boxer156

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posted September 06, 2000 06:05 PM

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Just had my test levels checked and they came back EXTREMELY low (like a fucking woman). I am 180---normal is 250-800. The only good thing is he will prescribe me some "androgel" but this is obviously not near as good as AS. Whats weird is that I have very good strength and size, but low levels. What do you guys think about a "self administered" dosage of test?? He won't prescribe any shots, so I figured I could treat myself. I don't understand why the level is so low--- I did some wrong cycles as a teenager,but now I do only 2 cycles a year with clomid, tapering, etc. Any suggestions/stories would greatly be appreciated.


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scott825

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posted September 06, 2000 06:42 PM

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some test CYP. or my choice would be sust250.

Explain what it was you did as a teenager that permanently lowered your test levels.This would help alot of the newbies to AS.

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boxer156

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posted September 06, 2000 06:59 PM

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Well, my stupid ass never took any clomid, HCG, or anything. I just shot (god knows what dosages) and kept shooting till it was all gone. I only did 2 cycles like this, but it obviously had some kind of bad effect. I am ALOT more knowledable now, so I hope all the young guys listen to me and WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. Use what you got, then try some AS.


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bstrong

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posted September 06, 2000 07:06 PM

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try a cycle of proviron with the andro or even better some androxon.


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boxer156

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posted September 06, 2000 07:56 PM

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Never heard of androxen, what is it??


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Yoda

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posted September 06, 2000 08:59 PM

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You said you do 2 cycles a year???? When was your last one, you may be low because you haven't recovered from that yet. I know you said you taper and use Clomid but for some that still doesn't work. Also, if your doctor wont prescribe shots, ask for a referal to an Endocronologist, they'll do them.


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boxer156

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posted September 06, 2000 10:33 PM

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My last cycle was back in April. I think I am going to try to get a refferal to an endicronologist. The thing I don't understand is with these low levels how am I keeping my weight gains and strenght gains??


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CLEMDOG

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posted September 06, 2000 11:00 PM

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how did you get your levels checked, and why did you think you needed them? YOu just went to a general doc? Couldnt you just go to an endocrinologist in the first place? I think I may have low levels also because the last 3-4 months I have had no sex drive, desire and a lack of performance. I'm still natural though. How could I go about doing this, I'm only 19, I dont want to tell my parents this and I cant afford to pay for a doc visit and test.


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giantset

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posted September 07, 2000 01:44 AM

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Hey Clemdog, tell your parents you need to see the doc and get your test levels checked. My test peaked at 174ng/dL when I was 18 and now at 22 it is under 90ng/dL. Remember normal range is about 400-1200ng/dL. I have to take test for the rest of my life now but there might have been something they could have done when I was younger.

It isn't unusual to be able to maintain high levels of muscle and strength with low test levels if you eat and train correctly. You just have to work twice as hard as the next guy. I did it until I started roids at about 20 or so and easily went well into the 200 lbs range at 6'3". That isn't much but considering my situation it ain't bad. Good luck and definately get a doc to give you test cyp or deca.

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ralphe

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posted September 07, 2000 02:37 PM

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I am sure you know this but there are variables that can influence your test levels... Have you had it done more than once? If not and he won't prescribe anything "good" I would have it checked again at a diff doc.....just my opinion....

But Ralphe, you'll shoot your eye out...!!!!


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CLEMDOG

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posted September 07, 2000 07:08 PM

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well I have mentioned it to my parents that I want my test levels checked, but havent told them what for, its embarassing! How am I supposed to tell them that I have a low sex drive, limp erection??? Fuck thats going to be fun. Told my mom I wanted to have it checked, she said "what do you want to do"? Want my TESTOSTERONE checked! I just know what she was thinking because it interrelates me to bodybuilding, so I know she had the wrong idea in her head. My dad is a doctor so I will talk to him.


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