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Hulc

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From:Camarillo,Ca.US
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posted September 06, 2000 05:56 PM

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I herd on the news that 8 rowers from china were banned from the olympics for testing positive for E P O,anyone know what it is?.


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MEDIC

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posted September 06, 2000 06:25 PM

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bump curious to know myself


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Badkins21

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posted September 06, 2000 06:56 PM

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Damn bro, I actually got on to ask that EXACT SAME QUESTION!! Hope somebody on here knows...BUMP!!

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THESAINT

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posted September 06, 2000 07:01 PM

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EPO-erythroporetin. It's main effect is to increase aerobic efficiency. It is a natural hormone, but an overdose could kill you. It is used to treat anemia and is used on HIV infected patients. No use in bodybuilding.


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JUICESEEKER

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From:SOMEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE
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posted September 06, 2000 07:07 PM

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IT IS USED BY MANY ENDURANCE ATHLETES TO INCREASE MORE BLOOD CELLS. THE MORE BLOOD CELLS THE MORE OXYGEN IN THE BLOOD.
IT IS ALL ABOUT ENDURANCE.


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TxCollegeguy

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posted September 06, 2000 07:07 PM

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It allows your body to produce more Red Blood cells and increase your ability to hold Oxygen in your blood which will increase your endurance....

Just how can they test for it?? The last I heard there wasn't a Testing method developed for it...and the Olympic committe I thought hasn't released a red blood cell limit or standard to measure by

sounds interesting...if anyone has a place online to readup on this I would be interested...Being a X distance runner myself


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E2

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posted September 06, 2000 07:44 PM

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Strange because the IOC won't perform blood tests, they only do urine tests, and if you're doing that then EPO can be used up to two days before a comp and it will be undetectable. They must have done some blood tests or the people taking it are idiots.

I heard they were caught with banned substances in their systems but i didn't know it was EPO.


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Hulc

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posted September 06, 2000 08:59 PM

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Thanks for the info guys.


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saigo1

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posted September 07, 2000 01:06 AM

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I wish everyone would stop saying that EPO

has no use in bodybuilding. It does but it

is more for competition rather then bulking.

It can act on the place of a volume expander

if done properly. PLEASE..... DO THE WORK.


CHECK IT OUT

VERY CAREFULLY.

It has a place in BB if you know how to do

it. Just like dextrose and a few others.....


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saigo1

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posted September 07, 2000 01:09 AM

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BUMP.


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Twisted_Steel

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From: South Carolina
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posted September 07, 2000 01:10 AM

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OOOO NOOOOO, popular mechanics had an entire section devoted to the IOC and their "ARDNET NO DRUGS STANCE". EPO, is determinable thorugh blood and urnin, and detectable looong after 2 days. This is according to the magazine. So dont cut my balls off.

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E2

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posted September 07, 2000 01:18 AM

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In urine tests you can easily beat them after two days of no epo useage. The blood tests however are a different story, the ioc only performs urine tests.


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Taner

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posted September 07, 2000 11:08 AM

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Now the story with EPO. Yes, they are starting at this olympics to test for it and it will be a blood test. apparently the effects last up to 4 weeks and can be tested in blood during this time too.
This nice English gentleman, a scientist, was trying to develop a test for HGH but the olympic comittee decided to concentrate on EPO and do a physical search for HGH, lol, and all the funds are now going towards the blood tests for EPO. This is mainly due to the wider usage of EPO and the time it would have taken to develop the HGH test before the olympics starts!!
It is used for carrying more oxygen into the body to improve stamina. There is a detailed article on this and other drugs used by olympic athletes in the papers in UK but as usual the media gets most of the facts wrong and talk about Stonozolol being one of the most effective AS for strength and bulk!! ha..ha :-)

Taz

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Phreaky

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posted September 07, 2000 03:33 PM

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There is a urine test for EPO but as far as I know it is not yet approved by the IOC. As far as the comment on Stanazonol..I have to disagree..on a mg per mg basis it is one of the best for pure muscle and strength gains. Try 1000mg/wk of test compared to 1000mg/wk of Winny and I'm sure you will agree.


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Maverik

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From:Mount Olympus
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posted September 07, 2000 03:44 PM

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From what I read in some running magazine, it can give you up to a 10% increase in athletic performance instantly, compared to AS, where you actually have to work to increase performance. Apparently it has been linked to several deaths in the running community.


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saigo1

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From:Bx. ,N.Y. ,U.S.A.
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posted September 08, 2000 01:49 AM

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I wonder the pharmceutical company Amgen

may be helping with the testing. They have

had a test that they use for renal patients

to determine the level of the pt.'s hct

and to determine the drop off rate at which

this occurs. their is a little more detail

to it but that is basically it. Doing

something like this it is a bit more easier

to determine if a person is using epo or

something similar.


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AY

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posted September 08, 2000 02:06 AM

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I thought they were using gas chromatography tests as well.

AY


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