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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 02:02 PM

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as most of you know,I live in peru..I had a box coming from thaialnd to peru,with gear of course..I recieve a letter here in peru that my box was siezed in the port of San fransisco..what the fuck is this.does the US government have the right to sieze a box that is destine for another country????


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ripped to shreads2

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posted September 06, 2000 02:05 PM

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fuck no they dont, unless it got mixed up and sent to us


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 06, 2000 02:06 PM

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Bro,big brother thinks he's the police force for the entire f*ckin'planet.That is such bullsh*t.Sorry to hear that animal.


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2Thick

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posted September 06, 2000 02:06 PM

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Someone is scamming you (in my experience).

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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 02:10 PM

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first off...noone scamming me..if you must know I get all my anabols from my cousin who lives there..also I called customs and they have the record of it and dont understand how this happened..I have to call tomorrow...like I said I live in peru so Im not worried about legal action,,being gear is legal in thailand as well as peru


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posted September 06, 2000 02:11 PM

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I told you guys that things are tightening up.

On the other hand, 2Thick may also be right. A postal employee could have just took the stuff and sent you the "letter".

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2Thick

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posted September 06, 2000 02:11 PM

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Not your source, but the postal workers.

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ripped to shreads2

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posted September 06, 2000 02:16 PM

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i was a manager for ups, i aqaired my self some hgh that fell and broke ,ok, but i say you are ok they will send it to you, must of been a mistake


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1911

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posted September 06, 2000 02:16 PM

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Animal B-

You may want to review the US Customs sit e for more answers: http://www.customs.gov

I extracted the following for you re: seizures

Later,

Why Seizures? U.S. Customs seizes merchandise that a traveler or importer attempts to import in violation of U.S. law on behalf of over 40 agencies of the United States Government. These include the Food & Drug Administration (FDA), the Departments of Commerce, State, Defense, and Treasury, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and many others, for whom Customs acts as enforcement arm at the U.S. borders, ports of entry, and mail locations.


Some merchandise seized is prohibited (narcotics, hazardous materials), and some is merely restricted (subject to trade embargoes such as those against Iran, North Korea, Cuba, etc.). Some merchandise is seized due to violation of entry requirements (failure to declare, false valuation to reduce duty, etc.). Some is seized to secure payment of a penalty.


What Happens Next? Due Process: All seizures, forfeitures, mitigation, and property dispositions are strictly governed by laws designed to afford the greatest possible due process.


a. Seizure Notice: The importer is provided with a "Notice of Seizure," listing the items seized, the law(s) violated, the violator's options (rights and time to petition, elect judicial or administrative processing, etc.) and the Customs contact location and telephone number. The seizing officers also look for information on other possible claimants to the property. Customs sends identical seizures notices to all other known persons with a valid interest in the property, who have the same rights as the violator.


b. Adjudication: The Fines, Penalties & Forfeitures Officer (FPFO) for the Customs Service port takes custody of the property, and assigns the case to a specialist. If the importer files a petition for administrative relief, the mitigating facts and circumstances the importer provides, together with the report and findings of the seizing and investigating officers, are evaluated and weighed by the specialist. The specialist makes a recommendation to: forfeit some or all of the property to the Government; remit (give back) some or all of the property to the violator or claimant; remit the property and issue a penalty; release the property for immediate re-exportation; or return some or all of the property upon payment of a sum of money based on the property's value in lieu of forfeiture. In this last type of resolution, the money paid is then forfeited to the Government.


c. Forfeiture Notice: Forfeiture proceedings are instituted when the violator/claimant fails to petition or comply with the FPFO decision within the specified time. Forfeiture proceedings consist of public announcement, or advertisement, of Customs intent to forfeit. This provides claimants with additional notice and time in which to make claims on the property. The form used depends on the value of the merchandise. Intent to forfeit low-value merchandise is posted in the Customhouse of the service port area controlling the seizure. Customs advertises forfeiture of higher-value merchandise in a newspaper of general circulation in the appropriate area on three successive occasions, 7 days apart. A previously unknown claimant, or one with new facts, may seek to interrupt the forfeiture proceedings by contacting Customs. If the petition is accepted but fails again, Customs must reinstitute forfeiture proceedings (the advertisement process) from the beginning. On completion, title to the property is transferred to the government.


What Happens to Forfeited Property? Depending on the character of the forfeited property, it may be destroyed, shared with other government agencies, retained for Customs use, or sold at auction.


The disposition of seized counterfeit merchandise which has been forfeited is governed by 19 U.S.C. 1526. Pursuant to sections 1526(e) and 1526(e)(2), the Secretary of the Treasury shall notify the owner of the trademark and after forfeiture shall obliterate the trademark where feasible and dispose of the seized goods by either delivery to a government agency, donation to a charitable institution, sale at auction, or destruction.

In some instances, the trademark owner may agree to permit the donation of merchandise containing counterfeit markings to charitable institutions. However, when there is a lack of consent by the trademark owner, the prudent disposition is to destroy the merchandise.

Currently, where counterfeit markings on forfeited merchandise can be obliterated without destroying the merchandise in the process, the merchandise may be donated to charitable organizations. However, where the counterfeit marking cannot be obliterated without destroying the merchandise and the trademark holder refuses to allow entry, the merchandise is destroyed.


NOTE: None of the property rights or procedures described pertain to seizures of prohibited substances (Schedule I drugs, etc.), which are forfeited to the government immediately after seizure and destroyed as soon as possible thereafter according to federal and local environmental laws.



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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 02:23 PM

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no after reading all that...Does the USA government have the right to take my anabols if they are destined to another country and merely passing the through the USA..


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Unity66

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posted September 06, 2000 02:29 PM

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thats sounds kinda strange animal......why would u.s. customs take the time to inspect a parcel that was destined for peru.

just today i recieved my hemos and durateston from brazil with no probs...

thailand is a real 'hot' country though bro

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Tronco

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posted September 06, 2000 02:32 PM

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Animal, if anabol has no legitimate medical use and is treated as a controlled substance it would seem that Customs is acting within their mandate by seizing these products, regardless of their destination if they are passing through the US. Once in the US they are no longer subject to the laws of the country of origin or destination...but instead to those of the US.


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ripped to shreads2

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posted September 06, 2000 02:34 PM

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tronco hit it right once they enter it is subject to us laws


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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 02:35 PM

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tronco....it stands to reason your correct..when I scream at customs tomorrow,,I will let everyone no if Im getting my shit or not...I get stuff from all over as well..this is the first time this has happened and first time I heard of it happening


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mokhtarsayed

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posted September 06, 2000 02:37 PM

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This is just too terrible to beleive! Man, I think Big Brother might next seize my liscence for driving too fast through Cairo! Unbeleivable.

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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 03:02 PM

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Im getting a roid rage!!!!!!I cant believe this shit..the USA...stick to your own f%$�ken problems..on top of all this..my cousin shipped to me using my real name...name, next question ,,when I travel to the states should I expect to be harrassed by customs..


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ajc1977

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posted September 06, 2000 03:23 PM

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That is a bunch of crap. Give them an ear full when you call bro. They shouldn't even fuck with something that is not staying in the US.


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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 03:25 PM

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wait until Iget the custom agent on the phone...bets: will he or wont he get his gear???


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1911

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posted September 06, 2000 03:29 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by animal B:
no after reading all that...Does the USA government have the right to take my anabols if they are destined to another country and merely passing the through the USA..

Tronco is dead on. My interpretation (which is irrelevant) would be yes. NOT that I agree with, or support that position but I could easily see the US Government getting away with it. I would contact them direct and ask the hard question(s). As a non-US citizen you would not incur any risk in "pushing" the issue, especially since it is legal in the originating and destination country's (I would think).

Good luck.

Later,


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@LRG

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posted September 06, 2000 03:39 PM

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why cant we just take our shit w/ out the stress!
good question wouldnt you say? oh good luck--id just say you want your package and that you have no control on the flight patterns for it getting there.

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Kingpin

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posted September 06, 2000 03:45 PM

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I think that anything (or anyone) that hits US soil has to go thru US customs at the point of entry.
And like they said earlier... Anything from Thailand has got to be considered suspicious unless it's rubber dog shit or cheap electronics.
Sorry bro.


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