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mike peters

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posted September 06, 2000 12:02 PM

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Which source location would be the best route and why.

Big Mike


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buff221

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posted September 06, 2000 12:30 PM

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Domestic most of the time because you don't have to worry about seizures.


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Hacker

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posted September 06, 2000 12:33 PM

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They are both good. It's a matter of finding the right person. They both have their drawbacks.


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JayisCrazy

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posted September 06, 2000 12:33 PM

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I think local is better because you don't need to deal with customs, etc. It might be a little more but there are less hassles!

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Maverik

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posted September 06, 2000 03:22 PM

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Hey, look who it is: it's Milky Peters again!! Did you ever get that problem cleared up, you know, the milky peter problem? Just messing with ya'!


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animal B

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posted September 06, 2000 03:24 PM

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both good..if you want you shit yesterday domestic and paymore,,,if time isnta factor..some sources international will have your gear in 10 days


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toby

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posted September 06, 2000 03:24 PM

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Domestic is the best. It is not as likely to get seazed that way.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 06, 2000 03:25 PM

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He's never going to live that one down bro."When you think of 50mg D-bol,you'll remember milky peters".LMAO!!!


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BigWh1tey

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posted September 06, 2000 03:54 PM

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6 one way , half a dozen the other .
Just like animal said.


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brian74

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posted September 06, 2000 10:57 PM

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anyone ever get busted domestic?


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MonsterQuest

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posted September 06, 2000 11:35 PM

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Bump


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Slopain

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posted September 06, 2000 11:57 PM

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I like domestic, find a good guy and stick with em, you can find good prices - but dont fall for hype. International is good as long as your guy knows how to pack shit - 1 siezure is too much for me so I stay domestic.

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Advisor_x

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posted September 07, 2000 12:30 AM

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Go domestic there some good guy there.


Advisor_x www.ausvet.com


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gamer

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posted September 07, 2000 12:22 PM

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Domestic for me. I can't stand losing a $6-700 order. Even once makes all the cheaper prices more expensive. I like the quickness of a good domestic as well. I do on occasion order ancillary drugs from overseas but rarely.


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jdismukes

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posted September 07, 2000 12:29 PM

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Hey there Milky, I hope you are not still sore at me. Anyway domestic seems to work well, too much can go wrong when it has to come from another country into the US. Domestic is safe because of all packages sent in the US, there is practicaly no way your package will get seized, unless someone drops a dime on ya.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 07, 2000 12:45 PM

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LOL-Milky.I agree,that domestic is the safer route to go because of bypassing customs.BUT,I also believe that if a source is clever enough with his packaging,you have very little to worry about.I have seen some of the most ingenious packaging methods that would be literally impossible to tell what was in there.I have opened up a package and sworn that I got stiffed,until I literally went over it with a fine-tooth comb.Also,location being sent from is key.Obviously,you want to stay away from"hot"countries that are on customs seizure lists.


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Maverik

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posted September 07, 2000 01:39 PM

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Domestic is safer but the price difference is enough to make me stick with foreign everytime. And personally, I think if you do it correctly, foreign is just as safe as domestic.

[This message has been edited by Maverik (edited September 07, 2000).]


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2Thick

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posted September 07, 2000 01:45 PM

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Don't get me started about the infinite dangers of domestic vs. foreign.

I would order foreign anayday if I were in the states.

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mike peters

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posted September 08, 2000 04:06 AM

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Thanks for the info bros


Big Mike milks the whole cow....


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Lister of SMEG

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posted September 08, 2000 04:46 AM

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Got milk????? How are those 500mg D-bols treatin' ya? Now before I reply, is this whole thing a secret, masonic message to your board friend that us "Uninitiated" wouldn't understand???
O.K., enough with the ball-bustin.
No one mentioned the fact that Domestic sources are much more likely to stock counterfeit stock. Why smuggle when you can just bust out some bogus amps or remove a multi-use cap & stopper off a legit vial, leech out the gear, replace it and the cap/stopper?. Why would a foriegn source produce and/or distribute fake gear in a country where Steroids are easy to get and cheap? There'd be no market for it. That's why your best bet is ordering from the same country that produces the gear on the menu. Of course the possible prison time if ou get popped by Customs is almost as bad as just not receiving your gear at all. That's not to say that a domestic sting operation would be difficult at all. Not to mention if a domestic source gets busted and decides to roll over on you, or if the feds simply find you in his hard drive.
There are pros and cons to both......



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Linares868

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posted September 08, 2000 07:59 AM

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DOMESTIC no doubt. Prices might be higher but at least you'll get your stuff. If your source is legit that is.


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Juice Junkie

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posted September 08, 2000 09:55 AM

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No offense to those of you who have already posted I didn't even bother to read all of them..... Domestic sucks ass. If you get your shit there is a very good bet it will be fake. They something like 20% of the drugs on the black market are good the rest is counterfeit (Decadude I have no idea where these numbers come from) But the fact of the matter is I've been burned twice domestic no getting my shit but getting fake shit. Over seas is definitely the way to go. Look at this for a minute. Domestic is illegal not just for you but for the sender also. If you get caught so does he (in theory) and vice versa statically you have twice as much chance of getting caught as you did from over seas. Then think about where he got his supply domestic or international? that's an important question when deciding whether its legit or not. Payment is always greater for domestic also. The only true benfit of domestic is you get it right away..... but from what I hear from some of you guys recently your domestic sources time line sucks also (three weeks and nothing...he'ld have been posted on this board already. just my 0.02) But anyway international. The person you are buying from is not commiting any crime in his country (depends where he is) he can also obtain the items legally right from a pharmacy so the chance of it being fake is much less if at all. As far as time line goes "I've heard" of people getting their stuff in less than a week. Cost is much less and the only real problem you have is customs. That bullshit about 50% being snagged by customs is a bunch of crap. "I know" people who are at a 100% success rate. And as long as you use a fake name and have it delivered to your house and NOT your PO Box then you have deniablity.

JJ


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quenepo

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posted September 08, 2000 10:06 AM

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Decadude is not allow this kind of post here.
I can't delete I hope another mods do it.Bump

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Haze

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posted September 08, 2000 10:30 AM

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When you guys mean seized that means that they took the stuff from you, but do you get charged (criminal charge I mean) or you just loose your stuff, is that for the sates only or canada does the same thing


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Maverik

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posted September 08, 2000 03:18 PM

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I know that most of the local dealers I know are well known and are always getting harassed by the cops because they are known dealers. If a local dealer gets busted and the police offer him a lesser sentence if he gives them a client list or some names, he is probably gonna do it. If I keep my mouth shut then no body knows that I am ordering from overseas. If I go to a local dealer, everyone in the gym will know I am on gear. If you take the proper safety precautions, the worst that can happen is you might get questioned by the DEA. That is assuming you don't run your mouth to everybody and you don't place a $5000 order because then they are obviously gonna think you are dealing. Keep the orders small, keep anonomity high, keep your mouth shut and you will be fine. It also helps to have an overseas source that is very good at coming up with ingenious little ways to hide the gear. Hell, some of the packages I have gotten, I have been expecting to get gear but still didn't realize what was in the package because it was hid extremely well. I will stick with foreign for as long as possible. Prices are too good to pass up.

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SavaGe1

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posted September 08, 2000 03:35 PM

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Foreign for me, It takes a little longer but I know the gear I'm getting is legite. I just have to watch out for customs. As for domestic, there expensive and most of them are fake.


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Spunky

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posted September 08, 2000 07:07 PM

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well i go through a local guy at my gym but he goes foreign to get his stuff. So.. that way i know im getting good stuff.


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Gettinhard

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posted September 08, 2000 07:11 PM

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foriegn will usually be cheaper but my personal experiences with foreign have not been good.....Domestic have always came through there are enough quality domestic sources that you dont need to go foreign...

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DropSet

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posted September 08, 2000 08:42 PM

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Shit, as if there isn't enough to worry about going the mail order route, you also have to worry about counterfeit gear.

Maybe a stupid question, I dunno, but: If a domestic source is reputed to be good, and is backed by a couple of the mods, do you think he'd ship out fake gear? Wouldn't that be risky, get him plastered as a scammer?

Whaddya think?

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Maverik

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posted September 08, 2000 09:02 PM

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Drop set, the same thing applies to foreign sources. If they are making lots of money they aren't gonna try and rip people off. In my personal opinion, you are much more likely to get fakes from a domestic source simply because Americans are always trying to do little scams like that to rip people off. In alot of other countries, roids aren't illegal, so there isn't an abundance of fake gear like there is here. I worry more if I go to some guys house who everyone knows is a dealer because they are likely to be watched occasionally by the cops and DEA. Stick to domestic if you want, but I still think it is just as easy and just as safe to order from overseas not to mention the fact that you will save tons of money. I have seen 2Thick argue the benefits of foreign before but apparently no one feels like repeating them. I don't.


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Slopain

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Juice Junkey may be a moron. Sorry for the flame homey, but what you said is complete bs. Because you have been scammed do not say that domestic is shit and you are likely to get fakes. This is all BS, it is whichever you prefer - you can get scammed both ways, if you do your research either way you have a much less chance of getting scammed.

If I dont get the shit myself I use domestic, but I wont say international is stupid, they both have the pros and cons.

Slopain


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