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buff221

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:south carolina
Registered: Jul 2000

posted September 05, 2000 08:25 PM

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Now I understand why you use clomid throughout cycle to keep natural test levels up. But just say I don't want to keep natural test levels up, I really don't need clomid, right? I just would rather use an antiestrogen if gyno occurs. Since it is a mild antiestrogen then wouldn't it hinder your gains slightly? I am not disagreeing with you I understand why you would use it, but it would seem to hinder your gains slightly. I would rather be sterile during my cycle so I don't have another "rug rat" running around.lol. I have heard so many different ways to take clomid.
1. During the whole cycle.
2. Start after cycle and continue for 21 days.
3. Start 2 weeks before end and then continue for 21 days.

I am just so confused about this clomid thing, that may be why I can't never really seem to get my natural test levels back up to par. I may go ahead and throw some in this cycle and see.


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E2

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From:VALHALLA
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posted September 06, 2000 12:26 AM

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When your hpta shuts down it's not a good thing for your body, not good at all. You want it to be on and working all the time. It's a lot easier to keep it going then it is to shut it down and start it up again.

Now keeping your natural test levels up during your cycle is incredibly beneficial to your cycle, if you want to be sterile, get a vasectomy. Otherwise i wouldn't use juice as a form of birth control, while it may work, it won't work with any kind of reliable certainty.

Now clomid does act as an antiestrogen, but it does so by competeing for estrogen receptors. You see it has a higher binding affinity for the receptor than the estrogen in your system, it actually is an estrogen like molecule and is a form of estrogen, but it's much weaker than the estrogen in your system. Now it will bind to the site blocking the receptor so the stronger est in your body won't be able to bind. Now of course having a ton of estrogen in your system isn't beneficial to building muscle, but having some is beneficial. You don't want to completely supress estrogen in your system, that will hinder gains. You still have estrogen in your system and it still does bind to some of your cells, but clomid will block a lot of the est in your body.

Clomid eod during all cycle, then i like to use 4 weeks post cycle on most cycle. I generally use longer acting esters as my base to all cycles.

hope that helped

[This message has been edited by E2 (edited September 06, 2000).]


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buff221

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From:south carolina
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posted September 06, 2000 12:29 PM

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Thanks for the reply, I think I will go ahead and add some clomid with this cycle and see what happens.


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