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Cool Novice 
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why is the stack of dbol and deca so damn popular? cant one use deca alone and get the same results in the end? is the dbol jsut to "jump start" your cycle? want to maybe try deca and was wondering if its a must to stack it with dbol.     | ||
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Freak 
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Well you dont have to, you will get good gains off deca if its your first time around. Dbol will just add to those gains. Where the test? (2thick hates that =) Slopain | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 44 |
could i gain say 20 lbs | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1872 |
We need a whole lot more info bro give us stats on yourself how long have you been training, ever used any anabolics before, hows your diet, do you know how to eat/train properly to realize your goal, what is the planned dosage (or stack if thats what you decide). Age/weight now/bf% now and anyhtign else you think we should know to give advice. Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 912 |
Bro deca/dbol is one of THE best stacks you can do. If its your first cycle and you want to leave out the d's thats fine. You can still gain some nice size. The dbol will add to that is all. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 892 |
Its a nice combination between the best of both worlds. Anabolic and Androgenic, any cycle with a composition like that is going to yield the user better results than a a purely anabolic or purely androgenic cycle. Wouldnt mind hearing the chemical reasoning behind this, bump for Cdezel. ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 693 |
Bump for one of those brainy mods we hear so much about here. <grin> | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1872 |
Well guys it goes like this... Just playin yall bump for cockdiesel, bchemist, a mod, shit santa clause. Slopain | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 542 |
Deca and d-bol have been rumored to be synergistc in effect for along time. Deca is thought to work directly on the Androgen receptor while d-bol's majority of effect is thought to occur outside of the AR. They don't say where or how but this is a common rumor. Duchaine said it best:"if you can't grow on deca and d-bol you can't grow off anything no matter how fancy" I think their is a reason for him using this reference along with his preference for test being the staple drug of one's first cycle. Enough of this rant!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 44 |
very nice info fellas. id like to hear more about this, by the way my stats are 175 lbs 6foot ive been training for 2 years now, im still thin i know but i used to be REALLY thin. i think my bf is around 12 % id like to get that down as well. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
I dont know how synergistic they are... but the basics are that you take an oral (dbol) and it causes intramuscular water retention. Intramuscular water causes strength gains, and that causes more microcellular damage to the muscle tissue. Then the testosterone comes in and aids in protien synthesis and partitioning nutrients. This repairs the damaged tissue quicker and lets you start the process over again sooner... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 425 |
Wow I'm getting requested now. Here's my version. First you have d-bol, a fast acting oral. D-bol acts in a similiar fashion as testosterone in the effects it gives....i.e. heightened aggression, increased protein synthesis, and strength increases via water retention. Where does this water retention come from? Creatine synthesis. Your body actually synthesizes creatine on its own. D-bol reacts in your body by telling it to start synthesizing more. Hence the instant strength gain, similiar to what some people experience with supplemental creatine. But your body builds up a tolerance to it quickly, and you want to continue promoting anabolism via a more traditional "anabolic" steroid. That is where deca comes in. It's job is to repair the damage induced by the newfound strength given by d-bol. And since it takes alot longer for it's effects to be noticed, you use it for a much longer duration than you would d-bol. Basically, the old saying is that you get strong first (d-bol) and then big second (deca). There is alot more to be said, but I just got back from deadlifts and I feel like I'm gonna puke.... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 334 |
GAMER stated the proposed reasoning for the synergism between these two drugs. Roberts' talked about this combination in one of his articles on Mesomorphosis. Nandrolone has a high affinity for the AR, while methandrostenolone does not and is believed to work through non-AR mediated pathways. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 326 |
Creatine synthesis? That's probably why D-bol gives you such a good pump. You said deca repairs the damage done by the dbol-induced strength, so maybe you could get similar effects with deca and supplemental creatine? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 425 |
Supplemental creatine and induced creatine synthesis are two completely different things. Supplemental creatine does nothing for me. D-bol? Now that's a completely different story!  |
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posted September 05, 2000 07:11 PM