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MONSTROSITY

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posted September 03, 2000 09:04 PM

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I have done 2 cycles and I am in the middle of my third right now. My first cycle was 500mg sust/wk and low dosage d-bol 5-6 day. I did this for 8 weeks, the gains where very good I went from 235 to 250. My 2nd cycle was test prop 75mg EOD and fina 75mg EOD, I got very strong on this cycle and lost some bodyfat weight stayed around 250.

I only took 4 weeks off between the 1st and second cycle. I am a competitive strongman and during my competition season I find it hard to stay off very long.

My 3rd cycle (present one) is 500mg test enan/week 50mg/dbol day and 300mg deca/week. I am 4 weeks into the cycle and I have only gained 5 pounds, I am around 255-258.

I am thinking my next cycle should be test only, at least a gram a week......maybe some dbol to kick things off. I have heard that you loose alot with test only, I feel this is only true because of the massive gains. Everyone thinks deca is a miracle drug and you keep everything which maybe only a couple of pounds.

I will stick with my high test cycle, test is a feel good drug...... nothing comes close to test for mental and physical performance. I not trying to bag on deca, I just feel test is THE SHIT.


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The Bull

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posted September 03, 2000 09:06 PM

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You need more deca in your diet......

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td24

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posted September 03, 2000 09:07 PM

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I would do the test and deca. The test will give you most of your gains. The deca will obviously give you gains also,but it will help you retain what you get of your whole cycle.


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moondog

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posted September 03, 2000 09:10 PM

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Also, if you're a strongman, deca will help with your joints, if you have any problems there.


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Monster

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posted September 03, 2000 09:23 PM

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What everyone says is right, but I have done plenty of cycles with sustanon and no deca. I either couldnt get any or couldnt afford it at the time. SO it can be done, it just wont be quite as good as it could be...


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swol

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posted September 03, 2000 09:43 PM

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well bro, i would say to take the deca but if money is an issue, try equipose.
maybe a little dirty but its better than nothing.
good luck
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MONSTROSITY

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posted September 03, 2000 11:33 PM

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How much equipoise would you guys recomend???


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buff221

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posted September 03, 2000 11:38 PM

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Get the Norandren 200mg(10ml) pretty cheap around $90 a vial, you would need at least two. Equipoise is cheaper, you can get Ganabol for around $55 for 50ml and I would do a dosage around 400-500 mg per week.


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sour jerk

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posted September 03, 2000 11:39 PM

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hey bro i believe in test only too,youre 258lb now so you could hit a massive cycle with 1g of test and maybe dbol.if youve never done 1g of test no need for deca.
personally i hate deca ive used it before it sucked.no need to use it for mass gains.

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TranZamed

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posted September 03, 2000 11:43 PM

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I'll speak for myself and the Decaman when I say "get Deca or get out".


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MONSTROSITY

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posted September 04, 2000 12:36 AM

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bump, more thought........


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TEXASAMM

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posted September 04, 2000 03:25 AM

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Gotta go with Sour Jerk on this one,deca sucks.it is a waist of money.
The weight you lose from test is mostly water weight ,as you already know.How is taking deca, then discontinuing it gonna let your body keep holding the extra fluid?It is not!!!Angrogens all the way.androgenic steroids are more anabolic than the so called anabolics anyway.So save your money for more test .


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Omega44

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posted September 04, 2000 03:29 AM

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shit if ur competing strong man styles dont fuck around with deca or sust, do shit thats meant for Strength, like anadrol and test. suspension. im serious. u wont keep most of it but ull be the strongest ull ever be in ur life during those cycles.


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MONSTROSITY

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posted September 04, 2000 09:32 AM

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I am saving the anadrol/test susp stack for when I really need........ a national meet or WSM qualifier. Strongman takes a lot of endurance also I have heard winny helps with this??????? Is this true?


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Romeo

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posted September 04, 2000 09:51 AM

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the consensus on the board is that deca and test mixed are incredible..my upcoming cycle is 400mgs of deca per week...500 mgs of sust per week....and 4 dbol..per day....

deca is great for many reason....ask anyone ...they will tell you your joints feel great on deca....and your ability to hold your gains are excellent as well...


just so you know i have never done it before ..but this is just what i have learned from people on this board


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1AbBIG

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posted September 04, 2000 10:10 AM

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if you dont want the deca in this cycle then i would use EQ at 300-400mg a week. get ultragan since it is 100mg/ml less injections for you . if you go the deca route again then up the dosage to 400mg a week. i would do the nor200. it is much cheaper and get just as good as bang for the buck. i would do a cycle something like this , before i went to a gram of sus a week. dont taper the dbol since the sus will carry on for you .. this is my opinion..

wk------sus-----deca-----dbol-----eq
1------750mg----400mg-----6------300mg
2------750mg----400mg-----6------300mg
3------750mg----400mg-----6------300mg
4------750mg----400mg-----6------300mg
5------750mg----400mg-----6------300mg
6------750mg----400mg------------300mg
7------750mg----400mg------------300mg
8------500mg----200mg------------300mg


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The Ranger

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posted September 04, 2000 10:42 AM

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No offense to the Deca Guru's out there(decaman & 2Thick),

But I feel deca is one of the most overated, and expensive drugs out there....$ for $ I would use the EQ everytime....deca is by no means some joint miracle drug, Hell due to the added water, Dbol makes my joints feel great....At your weight, and experience, I'd go with a heavy test cycle, throw in the eq, and come off with fina.....

Your in it for the strength, I'd say the Hell with the winny then....costly, and would be of little use for what you want....To be one strong muther fucker!!!

Instead of fina...you may look into the aspects of halo as well.....it would depend on your cycle of course, but halo is some shit!!!

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