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bbman

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posted September 02, 2000 09:31 PM

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Hey bros!

On Monday, I plan to post all the info on a well know supplier!

I sent this guy money and he has been strangely silent. I have been as patient as I can be, but he refuses to answer any of my emails! I have been emailing him for days and I get nothing back.

I am not doing this lightly. I don't want to screw up anybodies rep. But this guy was quick to respond when I wanted to order, but now that he has my money, he suddenly can't be reached.

I emailed him once again today and told him that if he did not respond then I would post all his info on every board that I could find!

I will let you know how it turns out on Monday!

peace bros.

p.s. this isn't just some yoho off any board, this is someone who was recommended and is reportedly trusted. I do not just order from anybody, I spend alot of time going over all the scammers lists that I can find before I finally decide to order.


This sucks!


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turbo

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posted September 02, 2000 09:55 PM

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I say give it more time...the good sources are the ones who get busy. I'm sure he has a life other than suppling steroids to you. No flame intended. This whole game is based on patience.


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bgriff

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posted September 02, 2000 09:58 PM

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Hey bro!! E-mail me. I know of a few well known sources that are having probs right now but not scamming!! I can see whats up for you!! Dont post his name on here with out checking with a mod yet!!

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bbman

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posted September 02, 2000 11:49 PM

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Yeah, he may have a life but he also has my money! That makes it very personal. If he can't play the game right then he needs to get the hell out of the business and stop wasting peoples time!


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Advisor_x

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posted September 02, 2000 11:54 PM

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How much did you he take you for?


Advisor_x www.ausvet.com


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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 12:31 AM

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Sorry bro. I will wait to give that info too til mOnday.


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Gettinhard

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posted September 03, 2000 12:41 AM

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bbman check your email bro...

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2legit2quit

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posted September 03, 2000 01:26 AM

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Hey bro, we all hate scammers, and nobody wants to see a brother get burned, but you should make damn sure he's a scammer before posting his info.


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beerfart

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posted September 03, 2000 01:38 AM

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give him some time,things come up some times!you should be happy you have a source.


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moondog

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posted September 03, 2000 03:38 AM

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Keep in mind that this is a long weekend and people go away alot. Wait until Tuesday but I would email a moderator before you do anything.


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areeefer

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posted September 03, 2000 03:42 AM

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Dont be so quick to call "a well known supplier" a scammer. First of all you stated that this is a highly respected member of this board, he has done business with many other members without incident.
Based on his reputation here , I say that you should at least give him the benifit of the doubt and wait another couple of weeks.
I too was having some trouble contacting my supplier; he got back to me with news that his girl friends father just passed away.
Shit happens to everybody at the worst possible time. Email me with your source's name ; hell, it might even be the same guy.


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Dexter

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posted September 03, 2000 04:24 AM

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I agree with most of the bro's who've replied.

Yeah, shit happens. Amazingly, some sources have computer, Internet, Hushmail/Hotmail problems, are very busy in their work, get tons of emails, have other issues going on in their lives, and have (gasp) even an outside life. That's not to say they shouldn't be responsive.

Perhaps I know this person. Although I have been preoccupied with other issues lately, I will be happy to reply to your email should you wish to discuss this issue with me.

I will say the same thing to you I say to others. Don't ever, ever, ever call somebody a scammer unless you have all your facts and have truly been scammed. I'm sure practically all the other bro's on this board would agree.


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GAAV KOSH

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posted September 03, 2000 05:00 AM

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Hey bro, how long has it been since you sent your money? The guys are right, if it hasn't been over two weeks(that's if he's domestic)wait 'till you yell scammer. If a mod vouched for your source email him and ask him for advice.


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coolhandluke

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posted September 03, 2000 05:03 AM

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Dexter is right.
bbman, i happen to know the source youre talking about and trust me- it would be very hard for you to find someone more trustworthy.


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Juice Junkie

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posted September 03, 2000 05:11 AM

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No slam intended on the rest of the bunch but if it has been a reasonable amount of time and he still hasn't had the professionalism to return an email then I say talk to the mod and then light a fire under his ass. I have gotten burned twice by so called reputable people. I know exactly where you are coming from...... the guy is right on top of things until he gets the money then customer service goes to shit. If you are that G'Damn busy and have that much of a social life hang up your "I'm a drug dealer" coat and show some respect for your brothers in iron. Sorry had to rant a little still pissed at the cock sucker that did me.

ps - Not sure who your source is and I hope we don't find out (meaning you get your shit) But this kind of behaviour has been going on on this board recently with other people. Not sure who it is and don't care I wont ever get domestic unless someone gives me the key to the hospital pharmacy.

JJ


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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 10:12 AM

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First of all, I never said that this person was a member of this board. In truth I have no idea what his handle is on any board.

Secondly, Dex I am surprised at your response. I have seen you post to other scammer alerts or concerns on this board where your attitude has been quite different.

I agree that customer service should be as respectful and as responsive as you dealers are when you take somebodies order.

I also agree that shit happens and I am very seriously considering not posting anything on Monday and just giving it another couple of weeks. However, I use other bros that I have dealt with as a measuring rod as to how I am treated with someone new, and this doesn't meet that measuring line. I have emailed this guy every day for the past week asking for a response. I have gotten nothing. Seems kinda strange that he was there to get my money but now he is not there to answer a damn email. Nobody is as busy as I am. I work six days a week and commute an hour and a half each way to work and home. I go to the gym for about an hour and a half after I get home then eat my dinner and go to bed. I have exactly one hour of internet time on a good day. Thirty minutes in the morning and thirty in the evening with a very slow browser. If I can respond to emails then so should anyone else be able too.

I do admit that maybe I am jumping the gun here and the overall consensus would be to wait. So that is what I will do. But for how long?
What if the guy is a scammer and how responsible am I if I let others get ripped off when I could have warned em?

Just some thoughts. I did expect you all to be a little more supportive though.

Peace bros.


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vdevil

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posted September 03, 2000 10:55 AM

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Hey if it makes u feel any better, i am in a situation now with a very reputable source that i sent 900.00 to on august 14th. Even though priority mail conf. says it was delivered, he claims it was not.??

Anyways he still said he would take care of my order, but it has been almost three weeks now and nothing. He has responded to all my mails saying he is having delays. Only time will tell if i ever get it.

Wait till at least tues night as it is a vac weekend and he might be taking time off too.


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grasshopper

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posted September 03, 2000 11:44 AM

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Just create a new hotmail or hushmail account and ask the guy for a product list. If he responds then he is most likely a scammer. Though if you've bothered the guy too much in the past, he could just be ignoring you even though he will come through.

Grasshopper


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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 11:44 AM

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Coolhandluke and the rest of you, stop trying to guess who it is. You are coming up wrong and flaming me before you even know who it is.

Dex, I been reading your posts and you are so wrong, brother! I am pissed that you would jump the gun like that and post personal shit about me. I have nothing but the highest respect for you and the other good bros on this board. I also have even more respect for the guy that you speak of on that other board!

Don't flame me bro! And don't post any personal info about me on any board without checking with me first and waiting for a reply!

I posted this shit so as to get some responses on how I might proceed. The concensus seems to be to wait. So I will wait and give the guy a couple more weeks. To answer my email. That is all I am asking for at the moment. Just a response to my email as was promised.

Peace.


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Gettinhard

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posted September 03, 2000 11:50 AM

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BBMAN,

check your email,,,your source will come thru..

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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 12:45 PM

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After all the fucking flames I have received from this post on the boards, I have decided to wait.

I will wait for another two weeks.

I am not nor am I stupid enough to expect my gear by the next day! All I have been expecting was a reply to my email. Nothing more!

I realize that, realistically, shit happens. I hope and pray that nothing has. I would hate that something bad happened to this guy or guys! I am not some cold heartless sonofbitch. I hope that it turns out that the guy is just a little flaky in this area.

So out of respect, I will give the guy a couple of weeks from now to reply to my email.

Peace.


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superdave

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posted September 03, 2000 01:22 PM

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Why anyone would send more than 300 bucks at any one time to the same source is beyond me. If you order, break up the payments and shipments so no one can fuck you up the ass all at once.

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Yoda

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posted September 03, 2000 03:13 PM

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Bro, I've seen this post on a few boards and you get told the same thing every time. You need to be a little more patient, and if you need more help ask a mod to get involved. But eveytime you get told this you cop an attitude and start with the "I thought I'd get more sympathy" routine. No one likes to be scammed, it sucks and we all hope the best for you but if you follow the suggestions that have been given you'll make out much better!!! You said this guy is a respected source, well you get that kind of rep by doing things right, not scamming people, something probably happened and you need to understand this. You'll carry more weight if you ask a mod for help, going this route will only bring flames. Please take this advice as a suggestion, not a flame!!!


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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 03:19 PM

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already received and taken the advice. read up to my last post.

I never said anything about wanting sympathy, just was surprised by all the flames. Especially from a friend.


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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 03:20 PM

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Oh, and just for the record, I have already talked to mods.


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Fe3

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posted September 03, 2000 04:00 PM

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BUT in all fairness the source at hand here is running a business. He should at least reurn an email or say it's taking longer than usual. BB Man is not in the wrong, if a source had my money and no email or no contact i would be f"ing irate- And i don't think time is a variable, i don't think BB would mind waiting at all -it just starts to get a little scary when someone has your money and doesn't return a reply. I know i've been takin' for $800. It would be the other way around if he shipped out the gear first and did hear anything from BB about getting his money- Right?


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AHKA

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posted September 03, 2000 04:16 PM

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FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES ALOTS OF SOURCE
DONT CONFIRM IF PICKED UP THE MONEY OR
SENT THE PACKAGE
IF WILL REPLY TO ALL WHO EMAIL TO ASK EVERY DAY WILL WASTE TIME
JUST HAVE PATIENCE OR SEND HIM EMAILS EVERY DAY TILL HE WILL REPLY
AHKA


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Fe3

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posted September 03, 2000 04:17 PM

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i'm sorry but i didn't understand a word you said


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Pet Rock

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posted September 03, 2000 04:57 PM

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One thing I hate more than a scammer is some paranoid whiner bitching about loosing money before it's even happened.


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animal B

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posted September 03, 2000 05:07 PM

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another soap opera...like dexter, coolhand, said...good sources are busy...the good sources get more pleasure hearing a box was recieved then getting your money...I agree they should have more communication with you...again...becareful of calling someone the s word until you are 1000000% sure


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guitarzan

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posted September 03, 2000 05:12 PM

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Like one guy said "if the guy won't return your e-mail, then you have a problem". This is just like any other business, if you don't want to lose customers, you must give good service. This business is not standard so we, the customers set the standard on what we will put up with. If he's too busy, then fuck him, or if he's having trouble, fuck him. If he at least explains the problem to you that's different, but not answering your e-mails is bullshit.
You wouldn't put up with this shit from the dealer you bought your car from, so don't put up with it anywhere else.
There are always customers who are total assholes, guess what, if you don't like it, get a job.
If your dealing for a living, believe me, you're making MONEY, and that is the only reason you put up with asshole customers. No one is doing it because they think steroids should be legal, and it's not right that people shouldn't have access to them. They're doing it for money and to pay for their habit. So if you feel like you're not being appreciated for your struggle, get real, YOU GET PAID, THERE ARE NO PATS ON THE BACK. You want a pat, give me my shit for half price, I'll kiss your ass all day.


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Dexter

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posted September 03, 2000 05:39 PM

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bb_man, you have my apologies. I would never have flamed you if I didn't think you were referring to someone whom I know and respect.

My posts on scammers have been consistent. They are the motherfuckers and scum of the earth. And I hope they all rot in hell. They lie, cheat, and steal and bilk old people out of their life savings.

I have also been cautious in my comments about people naming scammers. It is like calling somebody a child molestor. I have commented that nobody should ever be called a scammer without the proper facts.

You were, I gather, apparently sending an alert, which I hope this person recognizes and from whom you receive a favorable reply.

I'll shake hands if you will. I consider you a good bro, bb_man. I enjoy your posts.

Dexter

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bbman

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posted September 03, 2000 08:12 PM

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Dex,

You are wrong about my motives. The only reason I posted was to get an idea of what I should do and to find out if I was being too hasty.

I have no idea who this guy is and I certainly have no idea of where he hangs. I don't even know if you frequents any boards or what his nic may be.

I followed an example that I had seen earlier on this board. I thought that I was doing the right thing. Obviously I wasn't. I'll just chalk it up to experience.

Did you get my email? I don't want any probs with you, you are one of the only bros that I feel that I can trust with giving me advice. You gave me great advice on a cycle and different things that I can do to enhance my workouts. We have had some great communications. I don't want to shake hands and call it quits.

Peace.


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