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aky

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posted September 02, 2000 09:01 AM

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is there any way you can help to clean your receptors while you're on an off period?


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OMEGALOS

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posted September 02, 2000 09:35 AM

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Yeah, stay off of ALL juice.

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jersey boy

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posted September 02, 2000 11:58 AM

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I'd like to know this myself.


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Unity66

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posted September 02, 2000 12:03 PM

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there was a thread the other day in which someone spoke of using a low dose dnp for the purpose of cleansing receptors. it may be that dnp diffuses accross cell membranes and rids the body of impurities.....just a guess though. i too am interested to hear anyones comments on this

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posted September 02, 2000 12:08 PM

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I use Comet on mine, but for those really dirty ones, I use Ajax with a scrubbing brush.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 02, 2000 12:08 PM

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Twisted_Steel or Macro,either of you guys want to tackle this one?


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foreverblast

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posted September 02, 2000 12:55 PM

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DNP will clean out the receptors... of course it's a different story whether you are willing to take the risk...

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posted September 02, 2000 01:06 PM

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Macro is the man you want to here from on this.

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Arnian

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posted September 02, 2000 01:46 PM

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Denkandiol ( I don't knowq if that qualifies as being off peroid,but it works!!)


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posted September 02, 2000 01:56 PM

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Denkandiol ( I don't knowq if that qualifies as being off peroid,but it works!!)

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cockdezl

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posted September 02, 2000 02:12 PM

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This concept will never die. Androgen receptors are not static components of the cell membrane, they diffuse into the cell most notably into the nucleus and bind DNA. The cell makes new receptors to take the place of those in use, so the concept of "cleaning" a receptor is erroneous.


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jersey boy

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posted September 02, 2000 05:06 PM

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C, wouldn't eventual receptor potential be met with the introduction of an over abundance of exogenous anabolics thus taking us to the point, the cleansing of receptors to optimize uptake?

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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 02, 2000 05:41 PM

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Although intellectually and physically inferior to David Jumbo Polumbo he and I do have one thing in common. DNP is poison I will not advocate its use or advise people on how to use it.
If you proscribe to the receptor degredation theory, some do not. Then only abstinance from androgens will do. Its that simple.

Ya your right Cockdezel, the phrase "cleaning of receptors" is erroneous. Thats a pedestrian point,what's more your one misinformed bastard if you think androgen receptors are produced to replace the receptors already occupied by androgenic stimuli.


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posted September 02, 2000 10:21 PM

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"If you proscribe to the receptor degredation theory, some do not. Then only abstinance from androgens will do. Its that simple."

"Ya your right Cockdezel, the phrase "cleaning of receptors" is erroneous. Thats a pedestrian point,what's more your one misinformed bastard if you think androgen receptors are produced to replace the receptors already occupied by androgenic stimuli."

TWISTED, I am uncertain of your statements, can you please elaborate?


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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 02, 2000 10:25 PM

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I believe I was shoving a half pint of ice cream down my throat while simultanously trying to type. I was referring to your comment on androgen receptors being dynamic not static. I have never heard of receptor reproduction. There nature is similar to that of a brain cell. They are there, they change, but they dont replicate or engauge in some form of positive compensation when their next door neighbor receptor puts up the no vacancy for androgen signs.


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T Bone

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posted September 02, 2000 11:17 PM

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Who would have thought a subject so boaring and repeatitive could turn into comic relief.

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cockdezl

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It is good that you spice up your posts with emoticons and humor, since from what i am coming to learn, more and more, is that you do not have a grasp of cellular and molecular physiology. To go into detail concerning the dynamics of receptors would take forever, and I can't explain to you what took me years to learn in college.

A good start would be "Molecular Biology of the Cell" and "Genes V".


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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 03, 2000 09:31 AM

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Ya, I guess I have a gift. Its called making information pallatable for the average person. Im certain your the author of a number of respected thesis within the academic community. I cant tell you how much you impress me with your grasp on molecular biology. Perhaps you can send me one of your text books so I might one day be able to put up to par with your ingenious academic self.

Simply put, at the moment your a putz.

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cockdezl

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Well TWISTED, you started it not me, so here goes. Let's take a look at this gift you have for making information "pallatable" to the average person:

"I was referring to your comment on androgen receptors being dynamic not static. I have never heard of receptor reproduction. There nature is similar to that of a brain cell. They are there, they change, but they dont replicate or engauge in some form of positive compensation when their next door neighbor receptor puts up the no vacancy for androgen signs."

Excuse me while I laugh in your face. OK, now where did you read this fact that receptors are predetermined at birth as neurons are? Was this covered in a recent issue of "Mens Health" or "Tiger Beat"? So when researchers do Northern Blots and in-situ hybridization to look at the activity of AR modulation, all that mRNA that they detect is producing what? HMMMM??

"If you proscribe to the receptor degredation theory, some do not. Then only abstinance from androgens will do. Its that simple."

Research has shown that upon castration, male rats show a down-regulation of AR's. Now where did they go? In the cell's back pocket? And upon androgen administration, there is an increase in AR levels. Must be magic, HUH?

But I am sure you have references to support your controversial theory, maybe something written by science pioneers, like Greg Zulak or Paul Borreson.

So please, anytime, post some evidence to support your ideas...I am not too stubborn to admit to being wrong. And finally:

"Simply put, at the moment your a putz."

You got me on this one...I am just jealous that I am not, how do we say it?..."215lbs of TWISTED STEEL and PURE SEX APPEAL". Cause if I was, then maybe I too would be popular with the ladies in your trailer park.


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macrophage69alpha

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posted September 03, 2000 11:18 PM

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rather amusing exchange.

on a lighter note-
it would seem, to me, that DNP effects on androgen receptors stem mainly from the fact that it speeds up your metabolism resulting in faster receptor renewal/production. In addition, one might venture to guess that the metabolic stress of DNP produces a systemic response affecting prostaglandin production as well a variety of other biochemical responses. Basically DNP places a tremendous amount stress on your body at a cellular level which results in a "protective" biological "response"- this "response" seems to result in an anabolic surge and improvement in receptor sensitivity. whether this means more or less receptors, whether their binding capacity is upregulated or their expression enhanced- I really dont know.- maybe the receptors become more exposed in the cytosol, as beta-adrenergic receptors often are with exposure to different beta agonists or after long periods of abstinence from beta agonists.
just my 2 cents

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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 03, 2000 11:23 PM

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Dude, I think you need to relieve some posion. Momentairly, put down your text book, I know its gonna be hard. Find your self some pornographic material. Engauge in some form of "auto erotic self stimulation", thats how you would put it right? Its possible this may ease your tension.

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posted September 03, 2000 11:24 PM

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wow, way too much to read.

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posted September 03, 2000 11:30 PM

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I'm w/you Jim.


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posted September 03, 2000 11:56 PM

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I love a good debate.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 04, 2000 12:00 AM

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Hey,I'm enjoying every minute of this.LOL!!!


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posted September 04, 2000 12:04 AM

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LMAO


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Twisted_Steel

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Ok, enough of my silly bullshit let me address the crux of my problem. Cockdezl you are like Jumbo Shrimp, Natural Bodybuilder; your an oxymoron, a BRILLIANT MORON! This is forum which appeals to a vast demographic. Although I would wage my last cent the 80% of these members are of above average intelligence, I doubt there intellectually prepared for discussion at your level. Your method of dispensing advice and information is comparable to a professor's instructing a class of graduate students. Appropriate for its definate setting, inapplicable to EVERY DAY LIFE.
Your an asset to this forum, I am simply saying that in the future, instead of blinding us with this supperfluous mind numbing information, perhaps you can err on the side of brevity and just get to the freaking point.
Im sure if someone wants a descriptive lecture on the splendors of oxidative phosphorilation you will be the first one asked.
Thus ends any an all issues with you, live long and prosper, may the force be with you, have a nice day, wondering if you can bench the bar, good day.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 04, 2000 12:17 AM

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Twisted_Steel,you certainly have a knack with words.LMAO!!!!


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posted September 04, 2000 12:49 AM

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I'm sorry, TWISTED, did you say your still looking for those references? OK, I'll wait then. As for now you can go back to playing with your crayons.


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