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gamer

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posted September 01, 2000 09:02 PM

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Macro a long time back around February or March you stated you were experimenting with DNP to clean your androgen receptors. I believe you were even doing this mid-cycle. Any info regarding the effectiveness you've found with this technique would be very valuable to the AS community on this board. The below Receptor qestion brought this back to me as it is something I've been wondering about. If this is in fact the case then DNP could be even more valuable for this than fat loss as it would allow us to keep growing without extreme upages in dose. All opinions and experiences are welcomed and wanted here.

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Pharm Animal

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posted September 01, 2000 09:12 PM

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i have seen this idea thrown around on this board as well....interesting theory...i'd like to know the biochemistry behind it...cause i know these two compounds work in different areas of the cells, DNP in the mitochondria and androgens in the nucleus. i'm gonna holler out for bchemist...you out there bro?

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Slopain

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posted September 01, 2000 09:18 PM

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About time this post was brought up I was going to give Mac a minute to relax first lol! I am just about positive it works with all the results I have heard, my questions reguard the lowest possible dose to get the wanted receptor effects.

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msg

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posted September 01, 2000 10:35 PM

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well, DNP will cause muscle damage a bit like training does. But unlike a workout-induced damage, it is not localized to a single muscle group but is rather spread all over. Of course, the body will try to stop or minimize the wasting process that DNP is trying to trigger. Your body will try to calm down the main catabolic pathways DNP puts into play. Once DNP is discontinued, the rate of protein degradation in the muscle will be restricted a a bare minimum while the long-lasting prostaglandin leaks will keep on going. The end result is that the rate of synthesis is boosted while the catabolic pathways are slowed. We are then placed in the most favorable situation possible to build muscles fast.

that was via dharkam,

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TEXASAMM

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posted September 01, 2000 10:53 PM

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keep this at the top!!!!!!!!!!!!SAMM


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Busy_Mind

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posted September 02, 2000 07:15 AM

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BUMP'n it to the top!


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gamer

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posted September 02, 2000 02:14 PM

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bump....we need to talk about this. Macro, E2, Bchemist, all others with experience doing this! I know some are out there and this is an important topic for those who want to keep dosage patterns under control.


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cockdezl

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posted September 02, 2000 02:36 PM

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Since the idea of "cleaning" receptors is retarded, the idea postulated by MSG is most plausable. DNP is known for affected prostaglandins and causing cellular damage, and combined with the increase in mitochondrial density, this is a valid hypothesis. To discount the receptor 'cleaning' theory, I have heard many who were not using steroids, claim a rebound effect after discontinuing DNP.


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TEXASAMM

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posted September 02, 2000 03:06 PM

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YEAH but what is this rebound effect you are talking about C.D..If someone is taking a med. that drops a 1/2 to 1 lbs. of Body weight a day, then discountinues the Med.He will definitly gain weight back.Just like after a comp.I gained 15lbs. in 2 days.Weight from Glycogen and fluid.WE gain weight after discountining caffeine and ephed .or any diet drug.also.But I wouldn't say they have anything to with AR. or mimicing pgf2a


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cockdezl

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posted September 02, 2000 04:10 PM

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TEXAS, your statement is correct, and an excellent explanation for the rebound. I think that the supercompensation idea is the most important hypothesis for the rebound, while the prostaglandin and mitochondrial explanation is possible, but probably not as major a contributor.


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