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 Short Cycling: DocJ the walking experiment.
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 288 |
Here's what I'm about to start: Week 1-2: Week 3: Week 1-4: Week 4: Week 5-6: Then repeat, this time with prop instead of sust for obvious reasons and possibly A50 instead of reforvit. I will be getting at least 5,000 calories in me per day. I'm 5'9" 242lbs. Opinions... ------------------     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
Looks good. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 642 |
Looks good but not enough time off... Figure last sust shot on week 3. Then wait 3 weeks to have 0 sust left. So you are at week 6... then wait another 3 weeks for the receptors to be fresh... Just my 0.02$ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
That crossed my mind also, I may just wait a week for the prop and use that instead on the first 3 weeks. Thanks... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 402 |
why use sust in a short cycle? Doesn't make any sense to do a long duration test in a really short cycle....why not Test(prop) every other day. That way when you shoot your last shot its out in 2-3 days. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 38 |
I would keep using what u used in the first 3 weeks for a further 3 weeks then continue as normal and not repeat, just my opnion. Good Luck!!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 642 |
So BillSA, what you are saying is that this post went way over yer head??? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 572 |
looks great,good luck ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 403 |
tell him drexx, but it looks good to me --im debating whether to do that also, let me know the results. im@LRG | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1789 |
I still dont understnad the logic behind using long acting/releasing steriods (sus250) and a short cycle? Can someone PLEASE explain it to me? Look at it this way you take a shot on the third week you still ON for at least 3 more weeks so its like a 6 week weak cycle for the last 3? I ask b/c this is the second short cycle I have seen in 2 days using omna or sus, I asked for some logic in that post and did not get a reply?! Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 642 |
The logic is simple... I don't care if I supress natural test. If I did I would stick to 2 week cycles with prop or susp or something. I will take clomid eod and at the end for 3 weeks so it will come back like it does with a 6-10 week cycle. I know if I take a 4 week run with sust I am really getting test in me for 7 weeks and that is fine. It's tappering anyway. Know I just finished a 7 week cycle with sust so it will be there for 10 weeks... So I am still 3 weeks shorter. I get little or no gains after the first 3-4 weeks. So I want the good gains for 3-4 weeks and then a taper to avoid the crash... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1229 |
I agree with Slopain here. Everyone keeps wanting to use sust for a short cycle and I don't see why. I am guessing you are doing it for a good taper but not positive on that. In my opinion, to get the full benefits of a short cycle, you need to have almost all AS out of your system by week 3. This way test recovery is very fast and you will preserve muscle gains more effectively. Maybe this is not your intention but let me ask you: What are your reasons for cycling this way? Not flaming anyone here, just curious. [This message has been edited by Maverik (edited September 01, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Maverik (edited September 01, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1229 |
The reason I ask your intentions is because there are many benefits to a short cycle if all of the AS is out of your system by the 2nd or 3rd week. You can still be on some anabolics in week 3 but all of the androgens should be out of your system by then. But the 2 week point is not negotiable if you want to maximise the benefits of a short cycle. It seems as if everyone is getting into this short cycle idea without understanding the main benefits and reasons behind the theory. Like I said not a flame to anyone, just wondering what your reason is to cycle this way. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 494 |
You can use sustanon for a short cycle, but only for the first week. Then it slowly releases for the next couple weeks. Youre still on for 3 weeks post your last sustanon shoot. I didnt like short cycleing. It gave me great strength gains, but muscle wise, it didnt work out for gains versus amount used. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1229 |
Monster, what were your results?? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
I'm a newbie.I thought clomid was to help get natural T production going again.Since you don't care about that,have to much gear in your blood to resume natural production,and are taking arimedex for gyno,why are you taking clomid? | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1789 |
if there was suspension or prop and other quick acting steriods you wouldnt see any comment here from me. Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 778 |
Take all of your sust in the first 7-10 days of a short cycle. Then when you pick up again, use prop or some other fast-acting drug. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
Hey bro, interesting theory. Keep me posted. hahahahaha
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
If Sust. is what you want to use, then use it. People are overrating how effective Sust. is after a week. [This message has been edited by T-Man-X (edited September 02, 2000).]  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
Ok, I'm going to sound like a newbie here but originally the reason I was using the sust is because it's what I had "on hand." Yes, I realize prop, suspension, or any other short acting would be better. I'm probably just going to do it right from the start and use the prop. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
Yeah jersey boy, I'll keep you posted  ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
One more thing...The reason why I'm trying this is the enticing possibility of in effect, always being "on." Natural test doesn't decrease, there isn't a "crash" at the end, you aren't struggling to keep everything you gained in a 10-12 week cycle and if you can get arimidex for a reasonable price (like I can) it's cheaper to do short cycling. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
Let me ask you then why not just go a little heavy on the Clomid to offset a natural test "crash". get big or get out | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
Yeah, I hear you jersey boy. The truth is, I don't know if this will work the way it SEEMS like it will work "on paper." The short cycle theory is based on construct validity, not on tons of BB trying it and reporting the results. I'll give it a whirl though... ------------------ |
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posted September 01, 2000 05:52 PM