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 PGF2a combined with roids something to watch out for
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Since i have pain in both hiels when injecting 2x1.5 cc a day (PGF2a), i dropped this to 1x1 cc for a week, but after a week back to 2x1 cc a day. Because of this reduction i have started 2 weeks ago shooting 200 mgr of Primo on friday. So this morning at 7 am 1 cc PGF2a, at 9 am 200 mgr Primo. So far so good. The second shot of PG at 1 pm. I always shoot my PG at 7 am and 1 pm. Normally the Primo comes in the evening but not today. I always thought that Primo works after a day or so, so shooting the PG after the Primo was ok. "Holy sh*t", no way. My god, after 3 months and 1 week of taking PG, i was used to almost all the sides, sometimes i feel nothing anymore after the shot, but this time instantly after the shot my lungs where filled with the PG, almost too much, my mouth also, i started enormously sweating all over my body like never before, had to go to the bathroom, i had all those sides 3 months ago, but they gradually went away, but never ever i had them like this. This was as if i was taking 5 cc's at once. I thought i was ready for the hospital. It took me about 2 hours to come back to normal. My hiels started hurting again. Talking about an anabolic boost.The bottom line is: even after that long period of taking PG, i don't want to experience today again. Now i know why Darkham claims that taking roids and PG would be to much. It is not too much, but never, never take the PG shortly after your roids. I am talking about Primo here, the easiest of all roids. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Yes JEFF_RYS,by all accounts that I've ever heard,taking the two together creates TOO powerful of an effect.Used together,they DRAMATICALLY amplify the effect of one another to the point that it becomes counter productive,not to mention dangerous,as you've stated here.Sorry about your misfortune there bro.Hope you get better soon. | ||
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Moderator 
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Thanks Jeff, Always wondered....Hmmmmmmmmm...Now I know....Answers my last question.... ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I will post again if something new comes up. Thanks for the replys guys. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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hope your ok bro and thanks for the info I myself am thinking of pgf but i will wait till i finish my cycle ------------------  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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you should have taken advantage of it and drank like 3 protein shakes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Another thing- how much size have you gained in the past 3 months from the pgf2? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Yea a few bros told me that it would be too much!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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bump | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Sorry Recoome, but we have a time difference of 6 houres, so i was asleep. Well if i gained 4-5 pounds on it it is much.My weight didn't go up, but stayed the same, you know loosing fat and gaining some muscle at the same time. Besides i went delibarately down from 198 pounds to 187 pounds. I don't see PGF2a as a muscle builder. Maybe if you take between 5 and 10 cc's a day. I see it as a fatburner. Just like Dan Duchaine said "lean and muscular". But you will look better, in shape. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Jeff_Rys:Every thing all right now? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hi Huck, yes, everything back to normal. This morning instead of taking 1 cc PG in the lower back, i did 1/2 cc in the left tri, waited 5 minutes and the other 1/2 cc in the right one. I took half the usual dose because of yesterday. As long as you shoot the PGF2a BEFORE the roid and wait enough like 1-2 hours you will be ok, but don't do the reverse thing. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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As always,thanks for your input!And glad to hear you're O.K.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Glad to hear you're feeling better. I did PGF2a while on a cycle and had no problems, I gained incredibly, I think you are using too low of a dose,you SHOULD experience the side effects if you aren't you won't get the results. you should sweat and go to the bathroom etc,it shoudln't last for more than 20-30 minutes after an injection. I did 400iu at a time in 4 injections twice a day and I was on a cycle and I saw ridiculously GREAT results.....The stuff comes with a price obviously it's uncomfortable,but IMHO it is THE SINGLE MOST ANABOLIC SUBSTANCE AVAILABLE !!It's no fat burner...but it does kill fat cells ..it is AN ANABOLIC AGENT second to none!! It's not T3 LOL!! Maybe atthoe doses you'llget the T3 effect,butyou canb do 400iu up to 6 times a day, expect to feel sick, also expect to see the kind of gains in two weeks that you would on a three month cycle of steroids. My 2 cents! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hi Arnian, but i did higher dosages (max 4.5-5 cc a day). Mostly giving myself 4x2 shots of 0.5 cc (4 cc), max 2 cc's at a time, but i got fedup with the injections. About the sides i have had them all, not as intense as someone who is taking 2 or 3 times higher dosages, but what i experienced yesterday was absolutly not normal. I take less a day now since my both feet hurt real bad, which is a non-know side. Besides you are proving my theory that PGF2a will work better (great ?) during a cycle. I am very convinced that your gains where a result of the PG and the roids together. Maybe it is thanks to the roids (Primo, Winny, Eq ?) know for keeping gains that you got great results and kept them. I also think nobody just takes PG alone. When coming of a cycle some roids stay active in the body for a month. Even i saw better results the first 3-4 weeks of the PG and i just came of a small Winny cycle. I myself keep taking it for burning (killing) the fat and for keeping my BP down without pills during a cycle. I did not mention that the shot yesterday after the Primo was straight in the abs-fat, not the muscle. Maybe that was also the reason that the PG acted very agressive. I would not shoot in the fat if it only burned fat, i want to get rid off it. It was my wrong choice of words. Still Arnian if you gained as much muscle in 2 weeks as in a 3 months roid cycle, one may not forget that you took both together. SO the result is of the both. Thanks for your time. I know you don't post that often, lacking time i guess ? ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Maybe you weren'eating enough protein and calories, Jeff... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Good point Recoome, But i don't eat that much protein, calories anymore. I will be out of the country untill wednesday evening, so i will no be able to read or post anything for a few days. I guess this topic will be closed or something. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short |
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posted September 01, 2000 03:43 PM