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big calvin

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posted August 31, 2000 07:44 PM

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ok im nmotgoing to do it tell 1-1.5 years (im first tring to lose weight) but once i get to 250 at 20% body fat i want to do my first cycle. i was talking to my persomnal trainer tahts next to my house (not miss abs,she also is my persomal trainer but i have 2) anyways he told my cause of my age (i would be 18-19) i should do a cycle of hcg and clomid. is this a good cycle? i came up with a 3 week cycle and its looks like this:

weeks hcg clomid clen
1 5000 iu/wk 2 tabs/d
2 5000 iu/wk 1 tabs/d
3 5000 iu/wk
4 100mcg/d
5 140mcg/d
6 140mcg/d
7 100mcg/d

ok after the clen ill do the hole thing over again,what do you think?


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superdave

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From:Phobos moon, Milky Way Galaxy
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posted August 31, 2000 07:49 PM

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I dont think those are stand alone anabolics to use. Those are mainly used to normalize your endogenous test levels after steroid use. Try the clen by itself, that would elevate your body temp for fat burning. Anyone else?

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Twisted_Steel

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From: South Carolina
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posted August 31, 2000 08:34 PM

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Those are recovery drugs. Auxillaries necessary for post cycle maintance. I have never heard of either of them being used to stiumulate an over production of endogenous testosterone. Perhaps im wrong. If your lucky someone with more experience than myself on the issue will comments and set you straight.

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bgriff

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posted August 31, 2000 09:04 PM

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Wll put TS!!!! Listen to this bro!! He knows his shit!!

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Badkins21

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From:College Station, TX--USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted September 01, 2000 12:01 AM

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E-mail me man, the address is in my signature. I've never heard of using anti-estrogens "as a cycle," only after a cycle, but I can help you with the fat loss...I entered my last show at 150 pounds, 3% bodyfat...good luck if I don't hear from ya'.

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JayisCrazy

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:An Igloo somewhere in Canada
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posted September 01, 2000 10:33 AM

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Don't do it Bro...That looks like a enough post cycle drugs to support a entire gym. Do some reseach. Forget your personal trainers and ask some other Bros on the board. They are all probably more knowlegable in this field!

Cheers,
Jay


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The Ranger

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posted September 01, 2000 11:28 AM

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One thing about the clomid Bro....When your thinking of your " Persomal Trainer " and spanking that 18 year old monkey down there...it will give ya a little more volumne for the effort...heh heh heh...

With that being said, I have 2 peices of advice for ya...

1. Stick around and read, learn and appreciate.....due to your age, it should be an eye open'r.....use the archives & search features.

2. I agree with TS.....The chick that told you this is full of shit...well, TS didn't exactly say it that way, but that's how he meant it...heh heh heh....Educate yourself bro!!!

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big calvin

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posted September 01, 2000 12:58 PM

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thanks bros, but the "chick" is a guy but anyways it did seem like it would do much but i mean if a 260 lb mofo tells you to go do this ,shit anyones going to do in a sec. but i have been here for a while and i read alot( i have a liberary in my room of only about bodybuilding and drugs.i know somethings about drugs ,like which ones are 6the safest and the androgenic one ,the anabolic ones i.and i was telling him about the first cycle i came up with :

week deca winny
1 600mg/wk 50mg/eod
2 600mg/wk 50mg/eod
3 500mg/wk 50mg/eod
4 400mg/wk 50mg/eod
5 300mg/wk 50mg/eod
6 200mg/wk 50mg/eod

then 100mg clomid for 1 week,then 50mg for 1 more week.he said for the first cycle its best not to mess with testosertone things and just try to elevate it more natural.then why the hell would i ne doing AS? but what doi you guys think oif the one i came up with if i was 19 years old,first cycle,250 lbs at 20% bodyfat.what would happen? like the results.....ohh and check your mail bro

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liltank

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posted September 01, 2000 03:28 PM

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ok just putting in my 2 cents,

I think you shoudl wait at least another 2 years and then begin juicing. Your not even done growing and maturing yet...if your goign to do a cycle do it smart.


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DianaBallBusta

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From:Boston, MA
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posted September 01, 2000 04:11 PM

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big cal, bro your posts are difficult as hell to understand. Are you from the US? Ahhh, not important. Anyway, you don't need any type of AS right now. Your proposed cycle of deca and winny is not good at all. You need to stay on deca AT LEAST 8 weeks to get a full effect, and the dosages you have are all wrong. You say you have a library in your room dedicated to bodybuilding, so I say you spend a little more time researching and learning. It'll be well worth it.

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Consultant

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 170
From:Chicago IL
Registered: Jul 2000

posted September 01, 2000 04:17 PM

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You need to do way more research look into T3 Clen and Winny.


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Lthrnk

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From:Rhode Island
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posted September 01, 2000 04:21 PM

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take Rangers advice it could save you a lot of pain and $$$ Learn and read more

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