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macrophage69alpha

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posted August 30, 2000 12:21 AM

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there seems to be some confusion as to how individual esters are released.


anabolics are broken down at different rates depending on the integrity of the liver as well a your individual liver response though usually after one or two passes.

esters are merely fatty acid chains that are broken down at different rates by the human body- once the ester has been broken down the anabolic is released into your blood stream- where it passes through once or twice- then it is broken down or excreted. Thus when you are taking a gram a week of sustanon you do not have a gram of testosterone in your blood AT ANY TIME- lets say the propionate releases approx 30mg per day and the various other esters between 10-15 mg per day- so you have maybe 40-60mg being released over any one day(these numbers are not accurate merely guestimations for demonstration only)- not only that but the test is broken down quickly as it is released- so even though you release 40-60mg a day at no time is there 40-60mg in your blood stream- With orals on the other hand there are times where you might have 40-60mg in your blood stream at one time- as they pass over and over again through your unprepared liver.

The point of this is:

Orals go in and are completely/quickly released and slowly broken down

Injectables go in and are slowly released, but quickly broken down.

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Slopain

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posted August 30, 2000 12:25 AM

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Good info bump!

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bignate73

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posted August 30, 2000 12:30 AM

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good quickee post bro, and welcome back. good to see you are still around.

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bgriff

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posted August 30, 2000 12:31 AM

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Thanx bro great info!!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 30, 2000 12:32 AM

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Aaaaah,now these are the posts that I thoroughly miss.Thank you sir.


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ChefRski

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posted August 30, 2000 12:35 AM

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To the Top...for a great post///I printed it out

Thanks


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TranZamed

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posted August 30, 2000 12:39 AM

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Great info man. And thanks for ending that ridiculous debate. To the top.


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ulter

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posted August 30, 2000 01:00 AM

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How could you miss them Huckleberry you've only been here for 2 weeks.



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ulter

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posted August 30, 2000 01:01 AM

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I know Ape... I know


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daveyboy

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posted August 30, 2000 01:20 AM

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great post macro

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WCP

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posted August 30, 2000 02:06 AM

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Man...this is a relief to see you posting this type of info again.

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ironmaster

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posted August 30, 2000 02:47 AM

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Something good is happening here. Moron posts are down, and the classic moderator posts are returning. Macro, do some injectibles use site crystalization to slow the passage and breakdown of the drug?

[This message has been edited by ironmaster (edited August 30, 2000).]


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Mr. T

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posted August 30, 2000 01:35 PM

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This should not be on page 2, bump-


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HeavyLifterX

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posted August 30, 2000 01:37 PM

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Good to see macro posting again.

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posted August 30, 2000 01:39 PM

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Well, I could have told you that, Macro....
J/ joking bro....good post...

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45Plates

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posted August 30, 2000 04:56 PM

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Macro-

Thanx bro great post.

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TheDragon

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posted August 30, 2000 05:41 PM

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great informative post....I love this board! I'm learning more everyday.


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THESAINT

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posted August 30, 2000 06:19 PM

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Bullshit, who is this new guy? I've never heard of him before and wtf does macrophage69alpha mean anyway, sounds like some kind of plant. hehhehhehheh j/k Good info macro, good to have your input back on the board.


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BLOODTIDE

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posted August 30, 2000 06:35 PM

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Like a breath of fresh air, The man is back!

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Painkiller

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posted August 30, 2000 08:26 PM

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Very good post...back to the top with it!!!!


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Monster

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posted August 30, 2000 08:57 PM

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Also, the longer acting are more anabolic that the shorter. Heres a little breakdown of anabolic to androgenic ratio for som esters:

formate 13:1
acetate 11:1
propionate 10:1
butyrate 7:1
valerate 9:1
hexanoate 9:1
heptanoate 13:1
octanoate 15:1
nonanoate 19:1
decanoate 25:1
undecanoate 32:1

Thats why Dynabolon (nandralone undecanoate) is so much stronger than Deca-Durabolin (nandralone decanoate). Dynabolan has a 32:1 ratio and Deca has a 25:1. Dynabolon is far more anabolic, while remaining equally androgenic.

To me, that may account for some of the people who claim to have different results from Omnadren versus Sustanon. Where sustanon has testosterone decanoate (25:1), Omnadren replaces it with testosterone hexanoate (9:1).
Just something to think about...


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Dutch

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posted August 30, 2000 09:00 PM

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Monster, this is very usefull info !! thanks.


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posted August 30, 2000 09:03 PM

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Good info Bro. Glad you're back.


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macrophage69alpha

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posted August 31, 2000 12:36 AM

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MONSTER

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I hate to say this but:
ESTER HAS NO EFFECT ON ANABOLIC/ANDROGENIC RATIO

the only thing it effects is the release pattern of the drug and the amount of active drug- the longer acting the ester- typically resulting in greater molecular weight of that ester- though there are some configurational exceptions- means that longer acting esters have less active steriods, as the wieght(ie 250mg) includes the weight of the Ester.

this is why test suspension seems so strong- you actually get 100mg of test when it says 100mg, where as with enanthate you might get 72mg per 100mg(wild guess- too lazy to look up actual molecular weights) and of course an extended release pattern.

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big_guy1

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posted August 31, 2000 12:53 AM

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good info...and very correct...

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