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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 29, 2000 06:48 PM

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I just began to consume dairy again after a 16 week forced hiatus. It is so blatantly evident to me, dairies terrible effects on my condition. It completly transformed my appearance for the worse. Honestly though, I can't say that it bothers me much. I missed it tremendously. Word to the wise, for those interested improving their physical condition, remove all forms of dairy from your diet.

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jersey boy

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posted August 29, 2000 07:24 PM

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Lactose is milk sugar dude.


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Maverik

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posted August 29, 2000 07:30 PM

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I agree but there is nothing like an ice cold, tall glass of 2% milk. Love the stuff. I know its not great for me but sometimes I really don't care.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 29, 2000 07:33 PM

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No shit Jersey Boy.

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Decaman

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posted August 29, 2000 07:51 PM

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Ahh the great milk debate, milk will MAKE YOU LOOK SOFT ALL OVER , that's for sure

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Recoome

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posted August 29, 2000 07:53 PM

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I can't drink milk without downing five lactase pills...what did it do to you? make you bloated?


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Fener

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posted August 29, 2000 08:04 PM

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i don't exactly undertand why you 're saing milk is bad for your physical conditions? Why are you saing it 'll make you look soft all over? Is that just for milk or for yougurt and cheese too?


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Recoome

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posted August 29, 2000 10:07 PM

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I think they're talking about whole milk. Skim milk is nothing but protein and carbs, but whole milk has fat.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 29, 2000 10:09 PM

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Dude, I look and feel like a down pillow. It makes you soft like a fat womans giggly ass.

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ulter

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posted August 29, 2000 10:12 PM

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I'm vegetarian but I went vegan - no meat no dairy for a year. It's fuckin' hard to do. But I looked better and felt better than I ever had. Would I do it again? NO


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jersey boy

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posted August 30, 2000 01:33 AM

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OUCH!!!


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bigpun

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posted August 30, 2000 01:53 AM

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Milk irritates my digestive system, gives me gas, and gives me horribly thick mucous. A little is okay for vitamin D and calcium. If you're not taking in alot of milk, make sure you get alot of calcium elsewhere- recent studies have shown that high protein diets pull calcium out from your bones. Keep in mind though that we're one of the only species of animal that drinks milk after childhood.


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Thick dawg

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posted August 30, 2000 09:24 AM

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I cut out dairy products except on the weekends, when I try and up my carbs and sugars. If taken in excess, any kind of milk can give you a somewhat smooth appearance, unless you happen to be on growth. A buddy of mine drank a gallon of whole milk per day while on GH and got hard as hell.


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ripped to shreads2

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posted August 30, 2000 09:34 AM

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i just started drinking milk again after about 4 years, 1 cup of skim a day, and i have it after i work out with mine oats and wheat germ half a cup at a time, if you keep the amount to a minimum it is a wery beneficial for your diet


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burndaddy

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posted August 30, 2000 11:24 AM

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I too have cut milk and dairy from my diet except for my post workout meal. got this from the guru Dan himself, post w/o meal consist of 2 cups nonfat milk with raisen bran or cornflaks and whey with grape juice, this meal is high glycemic and tends to help my pump last longer.

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Fener

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posted August 30, 2000 01:00 PM

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please twisted steel and others justify why milk and dairy would make you soft all over if included in a balanced caloric intake diet.


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WCP

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posted August 30, 2000 01:08 PM

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Honeslty Ive managed to stay pretty hard on dairy products. I mix my protein up daily between meat, eggs, fish, and dairy...had great success so far...

I would like to hear more on this argument.

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Curious

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posted August 30, 2000 01:28 PM

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Unless milk causes you to retain water, which I don't believe it does...there is absolutely no reason to believe it would make you look soft. What, does the milk get stored under you skin. Please...that's irrational. I drink 3 gallons of milk a week...whole milk...and I have always been lean and hard. People just drink too much of it and the fat makes them, well...fat.

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the full bull

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posted August 30, 2000 03:50 PM

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ive been taking 3 weight gainers and 5 protein shakes a day.all with MILK.and i'm solid as hell.veins popping out of my chest and arms.i dont think it makes you soft.maybe its genetics???


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animal B

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posted August 30, 2000 03:54 PM

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whole milk is horreible..but there is nothing like 2 scoops of ice cream with hotfudge...guess where Im going now...yep,,the icecream store


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Rock_Man

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posted August 30, 2000 03:58 PM

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If you would like some good info on milk and it's adverse effects check this out... Good reading with backed up studies...
http://www.milksucks.com

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Recoome

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posted August 30, 2000 05:06 PM

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Like I said, these guys are probably talking about whole milk, which has 8 grams of saturated fat per cup. You drink fatty foods, you get fat, it's simple as that.


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ontariowrestler

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posted August 30, 2000 06:37 PM

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I don't trust that website (milksucks.com) It is done by PETA and they have an agenda...end farming. They believe that to kill a rat to save a child's life is wrong.
If you look at some of their links, they are to similar minded organizations. The PCRM, would like everyone to become vegetarians, they also don't believe in research involving animals...sounds like they have a similar agenda to PETA doesn't it. I would bet that alot of their references are from physicians who are in bed with PETA. I wouldn't trust much of what they say.


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Recoome

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posted August 30, 2000 07:56 PM

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If there were no farms, and people didn't eat meat, what the fuck would everyone eat? Soy and trail mix? gimme a fucking break


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Frackal

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posted August 30, 2000 10:14 PM

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I've been drinking a gallon of 1% per day since I started my bulking period 3 months ago. I've actually noticed that after I drink milk my physique looks better, more pumped, fuller, etc... It does give me gas like a motherfucker though.


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got big?

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posted August 30, 2000 10:24 PM

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what the hell do you mix your protein with? Water??? that seems like it'd taste disgusting.

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animal B

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posted August 31, 2000 04:30 PM

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ripped to shreads2

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posted August 31, 2000 04:35 PM

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i had a run in with peta ,


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FinalChapter

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posted August 31, 2000 04:43 PM

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It is believed by some that consuming dairy products causes your body to hold water in between your muscles and skin giving you a smoother appearance. I have seen no evidence of this myself. I regularly drink up to a gallon of skim a day. I cut all dairy out of my diet for 2 weeks and so no difference what so ever. Recently I changed from skim to 2% and whole, keeping my cals the same though. (Instead of drinking 2cups of skim I have 1 of 2%, roughly the same cal's). I was away from home for a week when I tried this little experiment. On my return my gf could not believe how much more cut I looked. By a mirror estimate it looked like I dropped 1-2% BF in a week, I did not change anything else in my diet besides the milk. Something to try, just make sure to strictly monitor your total cal intake.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 31, 2000 05:54 PM

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Gentlemen, I wasn't alluding to the absolute fate of all those who consume dairy. I am simply saying that in the same fashion that all we do is relative, milk for my person produces noticable difference in my physical appearance and condition of my muscle. I know others similar to me in this respect, I also know people who consume gallons of the stuff weekly and remain solid.
However, I absolutly love the stuff, since im not reentering a compition while im envolved in the process of graduating from the university I will continue to drink the shit out of it.

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Fener

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posted August 31, 2000 07:11 PM

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Twisted Steel, i just would like to know how milk and dairy make you look soft,what do they do. just 'cause i want to consider if i should quit them for a while or not.Thanks


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