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Future One

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posted August 26, 2000 02:55 PM

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It's never happened to me (I've only gone through one cycle so far) but It's good to know beforehand what to do.

Ok, if you pull up blood, then you know you hit a vein, and you take the needle out, and try another spot, but what do you do with the blood that's in the syrynge? you inject it back into yourself?

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Jeff_rys

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posted August 26, 2000 02:57 PM

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yeah, shoot it again, only this time it is difficult to see if it is a vein you are in.
Best is to draw back 1/5 inch, you should be out of the vein, pull back, watch very carefully and put it in. That's how i do it.

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Loophole Genetics

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posted August 26, 2000 08:04 PM

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After you have put your dart into position, (in your ass), and your now ready to push the contents into your body, first, pull back on the plunger just a tad bit. Most likely, you will notice empty space in between the solution in the syringe and the needle itself. Thats a good thing, and your ready to go. If any sight of blood comes into the syringe, instantly stop, pull the needle out of your ass or thigh, and try again. The very small amount of blood in the syringe will not harm you, if you retry immediately. Make sure you search the internet, or go to a book store and learn where the proper injection sites are on your body, and you usually will not ever run into this problem.


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Shawn

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posted August 26, 2000 08:18 PM

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What I'm wondering, is why draw back at all? I never do it. Nurses don't either. I don't think there are any veins that deep into the muscle. And you are certainly using a 1.5 inch needle, so I would doubt hitting a vein. In fact, I would actually be surprised if I actually hit one, which I don't want to of course. I just believe that there's no way of injecting IN a vein. Maybe you would shoot through the vein and IN the muscle, but I don't believe there are veins that deep. Anyone else feel that way?


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bbman

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posted August 26, 2000 10:34 PM

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Well there are veins and then there are arteries. Veins tend to be just below the dermis part of the skin underneath the fatty tissue. Artieries are much deeper and tend to be under the muslce, except for in places like the neck.

You should have no problem though with only a 1.5" needle. It isn't big enough to reach an arterie.


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Loophole Genetics

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posted August 26, 2000 11:18 PM

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There are arteries and veins that run all through your ass. You don't want to accidentally put your needle full of kick ass into that vein, thats why we pull the plunger back, just in case. And yes, it is possible.Some more anatomy. The largest nerve in your body is called the Sciatic nerve. This nerve provides sensory and motor function to your lower extremities. And guess what, it runs right up your leg, right up the middle of your ass, not the crack, but the middle of your buttocks (the area between your ass crack and hip). Thats why it is important to inject in the upper outer quadrant of your ass. Hit that nerve and tell us what it felt like. Oooh, it would drop ya to the ground, no doubt.

[This message has been edited by Loophole Genetics (edited August 26, 2000).]


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 26, 2000 11:56 PM

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Although improbable I have managed to lance a vein in the process of an injection. I proceeded to inject, then my conscious kicked in, I drew back, sure enough I was in a vein or artery. Its not likely that a perpendicular injection technique will yield such an event, but it could happen. Make the draw back a staple in your injections.

The reasons nurses dont draw back is because either A, they are delivering an intended vascular injection, or B. it is being givin intramuscularly in the deltoid or buttocks under the guise of YEARS of experience.
Your rudamentary observation of an anatomy chart does give you or me the security to deliver any intramuscular injection without checking to see if its done safely and properly.
As a side note, the oil medium/a lipid isn't accepted well by the circulatory system. If it manages to reach the heart cardiac infarction could occur.

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Loophole Genetics

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posted August 27, 2000 12:04 AM

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Bravo, Twisted_Steele. Good information.


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Shawn

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posted August 27, 2000 12:06 AM

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Well, I don't inject into my buttocks, just quads. Does this go for quads too?


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Lqdmscle

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posted August 27, 2000 07:02 AM

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The pro BBs don't draw back, why should you. They done juice longer than you've been alive.

But most people in this board feel the need to do so. It is not necessary to draw back. One thing that might scare you is when you finish, blood squirted out so hard it actually hit the wall. Just put a cotton swab on it and you'll be fine.

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akbar

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posted August 27, 2000 10:14 AM

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GUYS YOUR ASS MUST BE FULL OF NEDDLE MARKS OOPS.....................


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marky

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posted August 27, 2000 11:09 AM

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The more you shoot the better you know your best spots. I have nailed and impacted my psciatica nerve more than once and the pains undescribable! If Im in a vein or nerve I know it. I have injected a small amount before and knew almost immediately it was in the wrong place. Obviously I'm still here
and the only thing I noticed was a slight taste in my mouth. Only the glutes for me!


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Jeff_rys

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posted August 27, 2000 11:38 AM

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First if i can avoid it, i will never shoot in a vein, atery, whatever, if i can avoid it.
Second, i said this before, if you never have pulled back, well do so from now on, and if blood comes in the syringe, well just put the stuff in, because you always did so. It's like smoking sigarettes. Some can smoke 2 packages a day and never get cancer. While others who never smoked, ....right.

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Jae

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posted August 27, 2000 01:06 PM

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I agree with Shawn here, I have never pulled back. But I have never hit my scaitic nerve either.

Yeah, I have had the fire hose thing happen when I withdrew the needle before.

Ruined a beautiful silk comforter for my bed.


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duey

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posted August 27, 2000 01:09 PM

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what about the air that comes in the syringe when you pull back.


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Loophole Genetics

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posted August 27, 2000 02:01 PM

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Don't worry at all about the "air" in the syringe when you pull the plunger back. After you pull the plunger back just a slight bit, if there is no blood, go ahead and start pushing the plunger in. No big deal.


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100PercentCanadianBeef

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posted August 27, 2000 06:52 PM

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I had a tetanus shot in the delts at the hospital a while back and the nurse hit a vein. She said it almost never happens but had to jab me again (18g needle, yikes).

I would never consider doing an intramuscular injection without drawing back first and i don't think anyone with any medical knowledge would either.


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Fast Eddie

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posted August 27, 2000 08:37 PM

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I know I am in a bad spot if I feel it. When I find a good spot, I cant feel the needle. Sometimes it takes a few stabs, but its worth it.


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wretched

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posted August 27, 2000 08:53 PM

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an extra second to pull back is worth it!Just do it..no harm done


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ddiggler wanabe

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posted August 27, 2000 09:12 PM

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OK,but were is the best place to inject. Ive allways been told the rear, but Ive also heard the upper arm is ok too,Does it matter
Every time ive gotten a shot from a Dr they always go for the upper arm.


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Future One

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posted August 28, 2000 09:34 PM

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Ok, this didn't fully answer my question.
So if I pull blood, I take the needle out, try in another spot? how can I tell if I didn't hit another vein? the blood I pulled won't let me see clearly, but I can assume that I didn't, so then what I inject my own blood back into myself along with the oil intramuscularly????

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