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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted August 26, 2000 04:51 AM

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There are alot of guys on this board who hate this guy and think he is a puppet for TTOKKYO Labs. Say what you will but he can back his information up and will quote his sources of information
This isn't the case. He is a US citizen who lives about 4 hours away from the closest area that would allow him to do "business".
I have my reservations about TTOKKYO Labs but the level of paranoia and outright lies/fabrication is UNBELIEVABLE. Okay-the lab results may not satisfy you. But do you have any? I havent seen shit so far from any of the naysayers-so until you do-stop your mouth from writing checks your butt cant cash!
As for me-I am neutral on the issue . I use some Denkall (Ultragan and Stanazolic(past)) but mostly use Tornel(test and now the deca).
I have talked at length with the owners of my vet supply and they have stated that TTOKKYO IS a LEGIT company and they (either themselves or others) have done business with them for several years. All of their products have been approved by the ministry of health . An "underground lab" would have quite a time bribing enough people to pull that one off.
Please dont turn this into a "fuck you Denkall rules" thread. I happen to think Denkall rocks-they just need to keep their heads on straight and pay their taxes!
BTW, Damian has offered to meet me down south where we can get some of this bullshit cleared up once and for all. Is that fair enough??

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Consultant

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posted August 26, 2000 10:58 AM

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I have been out of touch lately But I just went to the www.ausvet.com site and the TTokkyo labs product are on the conterfit and scammers list. Check it out


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted August 26, 2000 01:12 PM

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Thats a really low move on the part of Denkall doing that. If they show a legit test confirming problems with TTOKKYO's product(S) then they can do that.

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flexed1

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posted August 26, 2000 06:35 PM

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I agree aussie gear rock and I have tried all EXCEPT Toyyko so I have said no comment from me until we here from our brothers on this board on results or lack of results they have from personal opinion. To date I have not seen any posting but will continue with my eye's open. I personally don't feel anybody should slam anybody else and facts speak. As of right now Aussie gear walks the talk and as far as tykko ( mis spelled agian) I will probably spell it right when I here if there results walk the talk. Until than no opinion.


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THESAINT

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posted August 26, 2000 06:45 PM

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What was the purpose of this post? You offered no new info.


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Stud Monkey

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posted August 26, 2000 08:15 PM

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It's better than trashing some product that you have absolutely no information on, like you seem to provide constantly. He's helping keep one bro from having his name trashed.


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T Bone

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posted August 26, 2000 09:01 PM

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The purpose of this post was to back up Damian B. and attempt to clear any missunderstanding of his intentions.

Seemed pretty simple to me.

I'm not trying to be an ass, Saint.

T Bone


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THESAINT

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posted August 26, 2000 09:12 PM

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That was my point. He's making it sound like he's clearing Ttokkyos name, but is not offering any proof, just a promise. I was just trying to make it clear--the only
object of this post was to praise Damian.
btw: studmonkey, you just popped up just in time to stand up for Damian also, you have absolutely no posts on anything else so don't throw stones, if you know what I mean.


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Bchemist

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posted August 26, 2000 09:15 PM

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I've been watching this shit go on and on. Everyone knows by now that this is some sort of marketing ploy. The whole point here is that certain bros (including myself) are tired of the constant spamming of the board. Giving good info is one thing. Giving facts and figures without lab results from well known testing facilities to back it up is another. Then there is the whole trashing of Denkall. They are a respected company that makes quality products. The majority of us don't care where their products are bottled, as long as we make the gains that we paid for. Then everytime Damian makes a statement and someone questions him, one of his alter-egos with one post (kychad and spunk-monkey) jump out of nowhere to defend him. Y_M_K, I respect you and your posts so I hope you understand my point of view. But you have to understand that alot of the newbies on this board believe everything they read and hear. Some of us here feel responsible to help them gain the same knowledge that took myself and the others years to obtain. This includes watching out for scammers, spammers, and con-artists with unproven products. I will continue to distrust D.B. and the company he represents until evidence convinces me otherwise. Besides....the beauty of the internet is that you can be a sales rep and not have to live in TJ.


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TEXASAMM

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posted August 27, 2000 04:16 AM

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SILLY SILLY SILLY THIS SHIT IS SO OLD!!!!!!!


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THESAINT

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posted August 27, 2000 08:29 AM

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You are right bros. I'm getting tired of tieing up board space myself. Obviously
Damian is involved with or has a connection
in Ttokkyo. If his info is correct---great.
Obviously the Denkall rep is a personal friend of mine. If my info is correct---great. Damian, Until both of us have documents in our hands, lets stop posting on this topic. Agreed?


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kychad

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posted August 27, 2000 10:57 PM

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I would like to say 1st of all I am NOT Damian Borleone like some idiots seem to think. I live in KENTUCKY, apparently Damian lives in CALIFORNIA.Bchemist, are you writing this stuff down? Before you start throwing stones you need to be INFORMED on what you are talking about. And just because I have not posted alot doesn't mean shit. Why dont you stick Denkall straight up your ass BRO cause obviously you are a sales rep for them. ...Isn't that the way you see things?Anytime someone , especially Damian Borleone, gives out any type of info on a company or product you automatically think he's the fucking president of a Lab or something....You say your "looking out for your bro's" but it seems to me your bro's are outnumbered by the people that appreciate info that Damian gives us...


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Pharm Animal

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posted August 27, 2000 11:17 PM

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hardly, kychad. <mr 3 posts>

stop pretending that you're not damien.

you obviously are.

this is really some silly shit anyways...stick to the juice that you KNOW is good...and everything will be good

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THESAINT

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posted August 27, 2000 11:18 PM

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KYCHAD, You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Bchemist is well respected, you are not. Stay off this post.


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Stud Monkey

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posted August 28, 2000 02:20 AM

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Have you ever thought, Saint, that kychad may be someone else on this board that might not want their real respected handle to be trashed by the likes of you? Think about it.


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Pharm Animal

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posted August 28, 2000 02:44 AM

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stud monkey...

it doesn't matter who kychad is...the posts that reflect his handle are the ones being disrespected, not the actual person

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