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ripped to shreads2

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posted August 25, 2000 01:12 PM

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here is how i would/should make the injectable??

disolve one finaplix box(10 implants/100 yelow pellets)into 5-10 ml of acetone or methanol which ewer is awailable, let sit for no longer than one hour.

add 50 ml of sesamy oil gently let sit untill further dissolved aprox. 2 hours

warm up by letting sit in hot water

gently swearl till cloudy yellow/orange further disolving rest of solution let sit in the hot water as it cools it will seperate


run it thru a cofee filter first let the top of the solution go then pour in the rest you can repeat this

put a needle in a sterile botle top then filer solution with seringe filter take filter out atach to siringi in sterile botle draw out and repeat until all gone

you can adjust the mg/ml by incorporating the amounts of the acetone

if theres anything that i mentioned wrong please let me know


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THESAINT

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posted August 25, 2000 01:17 PM

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Exactly right shredds. If you want to sterilize it further you can put it in the oven at 250 for 1/2 hour.


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posted August 25, 2000 01:24 PM

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i want to be sure, so all your inputs are a plus bros thanx


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posted August 25, 2000 01:33 PM

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To convert 100 fina's into an injectable at 76mg/ml I believe you use 5ml of acetone and 25ml of seasame oil. If you use the whole 50ml of oil it will yield a 37mg/ml solution. I'm not sure about the exact measurements, but I think I'm right. Anyone?


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posted August 25, 2000 02:03 PM

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iam going to use four finaplix for higher concentration and put it into a 200 ml jug so i dont have to keep on making it
anyone else want to give some feed back ???


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posted August 25, 2000 02:31 PM

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This may sound stupid, but you all must make sure that you're addding a sterile oil, don't just run off and grab the stuff off the store shelf.


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posted August 25, 2000 02:38 PM

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yes you are right e2, and thanx


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Hey E2, you'll probably laugh at this but we have used the oil off the shelf. I was in a hurry and need to make another 50cc so I just went to the store and got some. I let all the acetone evaporate and then add boiling hot seasame oil, mix it well and draw it up it a syringe and filter it through a sterile filter. I then add 1-2ccof ben. alcohol to preserve. Never had a problem and have chosen this method to produce the last 3-4 I made for training pals.


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posted August 25, 2000 02:55 PM

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seems as boiling oil is sterile, your way seems more time efective, where to get sterile sesamy oil???


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posted August 25, 2000 02:59 PM

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this is something new to me but I am interrested in making some. How can I find out more about this? How can I get all of this stuff and how much does it cost?


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posted August 25, 2000 03:02 PM

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molson you shoul do a search, i found a lot of good info there but remember you must be carefull and follow directions as i plan on doing later


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posted August 25, 2000 03:03 PM

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ill bring up the thread on where to buy sterile vials/jugs


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posted August 25, 2000 03:06 PM

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Great post Ripped. I would definitly go for the sterile oil, even if nothing happened yet.

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posted August 25, 2000 03:17 PM

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where can i get sterile sesamy oil ???????


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I would disolve pellets in acetone,then pour mixture through coffee filter to remove binders,then let acetone evaporate completely in a very round bowl cause you are going to have to scrape the tren up with a razor blade.You don't want to inject acetone!
This shit ain't sterile,so I see little point in sterile oil.Disolve tren in oil then filter microscopically.Perhaps this could then be heated in the final vial.Add the correct amount of benzle(sp)alchohol as a preservative,sterilizer.
I used the acetone extract methode recently on 40 pellets and the yield after the acetone dried weighed .8gram,so this methode seems good,little or no loss of tren.The white stuff that don't disolve in acetone is binder and tossed with the coffee filter.


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posted August 25, 2000 03:59 PM

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HEY GUYS WOUNDER IF YOU COULD POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR SYRINGE FILTERS WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.


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posted August 25, 2000 06:42 PM

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hey is fina easy to get?


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Just order a kit and be safe.

Email PLEASE DON'T POST SOURCES and ask for his list.

I'll be ordering my kit monday so if you'll want to wait and see if all goes well. But I am sure that this guy is on the straight up. you can get more info on fina at www.renegadebodybuild.com

[This message has been edited by E2 (edited August 26, 2000).]


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posted August 25, 2000 07:24 PM

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iam making it right now


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posted August 25, 2000 08:36 PM

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Hey ripped if you could email me and let me know how you got the fina and the kit?
Molson3@hushmail


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posted August 26, 2000 12:38 AM

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sounds good to me! What E2 said is right though, make sure the oil is totally sterile


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This might sound stupid but won't you die if you inject acetone? also isnt methonal poisen as well?

I've used several kit's from a reliable source and it just seems safer to me and besides they don't cost much either.


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posted August 26, 2000 02:22 PM

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the kits contain acetone/methanol


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ok i can still smell the acetone in the oil?? is this ok?

and also i wanted to ask i used 2 finaplix disolved in 15 ml of acetone then i added 80 ml of oil what mg/ ml will i get iam figuiring sonwhere around 180-200 iam about to put it into a sterille botle


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You didn't read my post!Pour fina/acetone through a filter,then evaporate all the acetone!Nothing personal dude,but I think you fucked up.Are you SURE SURE SURE it's o.k. to inject acetone??????


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By doing it the way I describe above,you only inject sterile oil(from syringe micro filter and heat,the dry tren is contaminated)tren and a little benzle Alchohol.Your way you got to inject acetone and binders as well.


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Throw that shit away!I just did a search and acetone is a posion!I suggest you read and weep now rather then when your dying.


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i started a thread on the procedure for making fina injectable about a week or so ago.....do a search and it should come up....i think i named it "for educational purposes ONLY"

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iam fucked up ????
well yes you are right , i got too exited over here, iam going to dumpt the shit out, i thought about it, it is not worth it just to gain a few pounds, ill just stick to the ol phatmacuticals, that i know are fucking good, so dow the drain goes the shit., methalone causes blindness, acetone coma, dmso makes you smell like shit so fuck the cow inplants.


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Are you a skitzo? lol Why did you post this thread and then completely disagree with it. Anyone concerned with sterility or safeness need not be concerned. I have used it many times without one problem, and know many who have as well.

Anyone interested in a proven kit that will come with specific instructions on how to do it cleanly and safely should mail Animal. I am not posting his addy here, but it can be found on conans site or the archives.


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yeah i emailed him about a week ago no reply.then i printed the instructions in which is stated that if you wana further disolve the remaining glu fillers to get the rest of the tren out to use acetone, i mean my final solution looks good and i didnt dump it yet, i followed the instructions to detail. i might confuse mi w's with v's but i can reed . lol . so if someone states that to further disolve the fillers with acetone then acetone must be used as the magic solution also right?? i just get a mixed vibe some of you tell me that that is right and some say it is wrong so iam going to tell you one more time how i made it:


1.desolved 2 finaplix in 15 ml of acetone

2.with in an hour i aded 80ml of oil

3.let sit overnight to let separate

4.boiled pot of hot water when it reached boiling point i turned it of added the vial of tren(i set the vial in) and let it sit untill it reached room temperature.

5.then i filtered thru a cofee filter twice

it was stated that the tren can sit in this form up to a year so if you guys think it is safe then ill proceed to further filter thru a syringe filter and i will put the tren into to a sterile vial
can someone who has experience tell me wheather it is safe to use
thanx


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Well, I'll be flamed, but it won't be a first.....Ok, first off i HATE to do all that filtering, b/c like it or not, i mean i don't care WHO/WHAT juicehead told you you ain't....you ARE losing money and mg's. I'll tell ya what DOES work, question sterility if you will, but it DOES work.

Crush up 4 pellets in a mortar and pestel, add 3/4cc dmso mix until liquid, add couple drops benzyl alcohol, then take the pin off a 23G or so, and draw up the liquid, put the pin BACK on, and shoot it through, do this until is shoots out w/ no clogging or problems, i do it like 3 times. then shoot it and say you shot 80mg, not 76 (which is probably half THAT after all your filtering) i've used a*****@skuz's kits but this works better.
some of my friends heat this mix in the microwave for 15 seconds before adding the alcohol, but i know heat CAN act as a catalyst, so i don't want to change the structure of my fina.

if i'm having a busy semester at med school, and don't have time to mix up shots EOD, i do THIS:
(those concerned w/ sterility may like this better)
crush a WHOLE cart, add 5cc dmso mix until dissolved, then add this to a vial filled w/ 15cc's of EMU oil (i use emu oil for many many reasons, to name a few, it's an anti-inflammatory and it's bacteriostatic) then i add about 1/2cc of benzyl alcohol. this gives you a 100mg/mL solution, that is relatively sterile. (i know at least 10 peeps, that ONLY use this concoction and no other juice) and unlike me and all the shit i use, NONE of them ever had an absess or fever or any adverse effects from this concoction. spend the 25+ bux and FOUR+ hours w/ the kit if you want, i've used every method, from snorting, swallowing, sublingual, dmso, phlojel, emu-oil+dmso, and this way is the ONLY method that i KNOW gets me EVERY last MG.

oh well, let the flames begin...
just trying to help.


hope this helps....

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i've received a couple emails asking:
A) do you/I inject the DMSO/water?
YES!!!!

B) is it safe to inject dmso?
Yes, your body makes a certain amount of DiMethylSulfOxide and it, unlike, acetone, propanol, benzene, and many other solvents has never shown to be carcinogenic or harmful even at HUGE IV doses.
In fact one of only TWO FDA approved uses for DMSO (in the States) is for Cystitis and pt's are given 100's of times more DMSO, IV.
W/ NO adverse reactions.

hope this helps.

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Dr.Joe is correct that dmso may safely be taken I.V.
He is wrong that filtering out binders is undesirable due to loss of tren.
I crushed 40 20mg.pellets and dissolved in acetone.Pour through coffee filter,then pour a bit more acetone to get last bit in filter.After drying for 2 days,I scrapped up a yellow crystaline substance that weighed exactly .8gram on a jewlers electronic scale that is digitally acurate to .05gr.
Do a bunch at once and this is very easy and time efficient.Who knows if the binders will ever disolve in your body?They were suppossed to persist in the cattle ear to slow the absorbtion of tren.I wouldn't want to have clumps in my ass when it may be so easily avoided.
I have read only good things about animals kit,but I personally would extract pure dry
tren then disolve in seseme oil and add a little benzl and use a syringe filter and heat the final vial.(I have not tried this)
Crushing 2 pellets in dmso and injecting has the potencial for infection and the certainty of injecting binder.Its only advantage seems to be speed.Preparing a large batch properly with great care will actually take less time in the long run,and be safer by far IMHO.


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bump
i would like to know if the proces was correct
thanx bross


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Well first off if you ever looked at the kits real instructions you leave the pellets in what you dissolve them in then add the oil and the filter. If you even think about injecting methanol then what type of flowers wwould you like. Methanol is antifreeze for gas. Acetone will work if you get medical grade which can be injected.


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