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Cornellius

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posted August 24, 2000 02:44 PM

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Ok. I have learned a lot from you guys, thanks. I�m going to do my first cicle soon, but I still can�t see to much diference for a newbe between sustanon and deca. Which would you recomend me to take on a 6-8 week cicle? I definitely don�t want to retain to much water.
Thanks


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gamer

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posted August 24, 2000 02:48 PM

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You will hold more water with sus than the deca as it is alot more androgenic (and aromitizes at a higher rate)and this is what causes the water retention. You should combine the two and you will make great gains. If you add your clomid EOD and keep your dosages moderate then you shouldn't hold toomuch water at all. I've done 500mg sus with 400mg of EQ in the past and had very little water retention. Just drink a lot of water and you wil be fine.


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Cornellius

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posted August 24, 2000 02:55 PM

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Gamer: Do you realy think that I need clomid for a first moderate cicle?? Will my natural testosterone level drop for, lets say, a 250-500mg sust/week for 8 weeks???
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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 24, 2000 02:58 PM

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The administration of testosterone with respect to the volumn injected on average bares little significance to the cessation of endogenous testosterone function. 250mg-1.5G your nuts are going to shut down. Yes, it would be in your best interest to purchase clomid or gonadotropin.

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Romeo

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posted August 24, 2000 03:16 PM

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bro im a natty and my first cycle is going to be a durateston---which is another form of sust and deca....hopfully in a month or so...if you want email me and when i start i will let you know how it is going


oh yeah and if you enjoy uyou tetes i would purchase clomid ....


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gamer

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posted August 24, 2000 03:23 PM

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Cormelius, twisted is right on the money. If you are using steroids (other than maybe low doses of anavar, primo)you will have a need for clomid. it keeps your production going all through your cycle. doesn't matterifit's you first or fifth, if your using test then you should include the clomid. If not you will inevitably crash at the end and lose much of what you gained.


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FOZY

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posted August 24, 2000 04:04 PM

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I used both for my first cycle. 500mg suswk 1-7 wk 8 250 and 300mg decca wk 1-7 wk8 200. If you have any questions feel free to email me. I used clomed eod and 3 wks after.
Gained 19 lost about 9 of that. BTW I had very little water retention

good luck

foz

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roadruler

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posted August 24, 2000 06:23 PM

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Fozy, about how much water weight did you gain?


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