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300 kleen

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posted August 24, 2000 02:17 PM

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The Geneva AIDS Conference stated that Oxandrin caused elevations of SGOT and SGPT when used in 40 and 80 mg doses. It has been suggested that Oxandrin may interact with the 3A4 P450 enzyme system that metabolizes protease inhibitors while this does not appear to be the case with Anadrol.(1) In comparison, Anadrol did not cause elevations of these enzymes in the Hengge study at a daily dose of 150 mg.(2) It may be that Oxandrin has more potential for liver toxicity than Anadrol when a person is using protease inhibitors.

The Grunfeld study looked at 40 and 80 mg doses of Oxandrin because the standard 20 mg dose appears to be too low to be effective for some HIV(+) men. While some studies have shown good muscle growth with 20 mg per day, this low dose was shown in a study by Salvato to produce little if any muscle muscle growth(1), and we wonder if at comparable milligram doses Anadrol may be a stronger anabolic agent.

Oxandrin produces more muscle growth when it is used in combination with testosterone, and Oxandrin used without testosterone can lower libido, while Anadrol is more androgenic and does not appear to require testosterone for anabolic effects and healthy libido. We suggest that for people who are more prone to side effects, it might be better to use Anadrol alone rather than with testosterone as both are strong androgens so there is more potential for androgenic side effects when they are combined.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 24, 2000 02:21 PM

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Enlightening.Thank you for passing it on.That's one of the many reasons I love this board so much.


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gamer

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posted August 24, 2000 02:27 PM

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Man I wish there was just more research on the whole AS subject in general. It seems like everytime studies are done (which seems to be only for the AIDS community which is a good start to change the negative image)we find out something new. Wish it was more concrete and don't know what I would do without the board. I sware we know more than 90% of the doctors out there.


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Jae

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posted August 24, 2000 02:33 PM

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I just came off a cycle of Oxandrin only. Taking a whopping 7.5mg per day. Yes!! Only three tablets and I can tell you in eight weeks, while I only gained about three pounds overall, I did become noticeably leaner and tighter, though I did not increase my cardio. I also added an additional 35lbs to my bench, 65 to my squats, and 20 to the behind neck presses than my previous 8 rep max.
It is good, though I would not try to take 40mg a day. It would be too expensive.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 24, 2000 03:12 PM

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UHH, DUUUUUUUHHHH. That was a profound article. No disrespect to you Kleaner. "you da man". Im commenting on the potential millions of dollers wasted to come to this rather PEDESTRIAN conculsion.

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300 kleen

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posted August 24, 2000 03:56 PM

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I agree, Twisted S.


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animal B

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posted August 24, 2000 04:16 PM

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kleen...great post...wish I had some current ingo like that here in peru...but we are 50 years behind the times...thanks again..


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chestyII

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posted August 24, 2000 04:39 PM

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Good article. Guess it took some "Rocket" scientists to figure out what we have known for the last 50 years.

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Jim Layhoe

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posted August 24, 2000 05:08 PM

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Bjaarki

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posted August 24, 2000 05:26 PM

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300Kleen:

Nice post. It's good to see empirical research posted to the board.

Twisted Steel: You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't be) at how pedestrian most hypotheses in scientific research are. That's how John Locke wanted us to build the "wall of knowledge": No big pieces, just one little brick at a time.

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