Any hints on how to set up a completely anonymous email mechanism, if only a temporary (single use) one? Seems like one of the big problems with "going domestic" is the chance that a source's computer will be siezed, then your order gets traced back to you through your email.

How do you work around that? Don't post anything that will give The Man any ideas, but, I dunno, maybe some general principles?

Bjaarki

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"'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten,
high under Heaven, the hero's name." - Hrolf Krakki's Saga (Iceland)

Hushmail is overseas, too, I think. Ireland, I believe. Does that mean that, if a source's computer gets seized, and his email folders get inspected, and an order from a bro is discovered, that The Man can't trace the order back to that bro? Does the email "server" or whatever need to be inspected? Couldn't The Man, if he really wanted to (I'm not saying he would, mind you) hack backward to discover where the email originated, just using the source's hard drive and the saved email from the bro?

I ask, because all this business about ip numbers and so forth is just mumbo jumbo to me, and I'd like to keep things completely clean, you know? Sorry for being stupid about this. Would like some info, though.

Elite fitness DOES log your IP address, which can basically tell which computer or internet access account you are using.

This is why I would probably NOT use an email account through elitefitness.com if it were available.

If I hear you right, using ziplip, I could email an order to a source, and it couldn;t get traced back to me. Is that right, BT?

aj: Same deal with Hushmail? I think you and me went around and around a couple of days ago on another computer privacy issue. I don't think I ever got closure on what we were discussing, but I know that that's because you seem to really know your shit on this, and I'm like a big zero when it comes to computer and email stuff.

Reason I posted this thread, I was thinking of going to like a cybercafe or something and creating a single use Hushmail account to order, but that just seems like such a hassle. Would like to avoid that if possible. So, you guys think my hushmail account, or maybe a ziplip account, would protect my identity from "prying eyes?"

Here's something from Hushmail.com
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What is Carnivore?
Carnivore is an information-gathering software created by the FBI to combat criminals who use the Internet. Carnivore is connected to your Internet Service Provider's (ISP's) servers and mines any incoming and outgoing mail for information. The FBI intends to use the software to locate and monitor specific email addresses for evidence of criminal activity. In the process of monitoring an account, Carnivore must sift through all available account information on a given server. The objection many privacy advocates, legislators, and the general public have with Carnivore is that the net it casts is too wide. The FBI would have the ability to look through the accounts and email of people not suspected or charged with any crime. Further, the public would have no protection or knowledge of unlawful or accidental seizures of account information. Basically, you have to trust the FBI not to invade your privacy.

HushMail v. Carnivore
HushMail's security cannot be broken or weakened by this government sponsored snooping software. Hush's security system is a lot like a circuit, when one Hush user communicates with another Hush user, the circuit is complete and the mail they send is completely safe. To anyone other than the sender or the recipient of a Hush message, email appears as a jumble of numbers and letters. It is completely illegible. The only way to decrypt or unscramble Hush messages is by using your passphrase when you open up your HushMail account. Carnivore cannot decrypt your mail, and is therefore, powerless against messages sent between Hush users.

Thanks a lot, bro, for taking the trouble.

BTW, I wish you'd list an email address, man. You seem to know your way around computers, and I have some questions about this particular aspect of the whole puzzle that are just too lame to bore the other bros with. I'm afraid I'll antagonize you guys if I go through all my head scratching and golly-geeing in front of you all.

aj, I'll respect your privacy if you drop me a line at my hushmail account. Otherwise, I know you're a privacy freak, so thanks anyway for posting to this thread. Your input has been valuable.

Yeah, I know, "getting the goods" is a whole other piece of the puzzle. Luckily, I'm in no hurry. Still letting my ambivalence about gear in general settle down, meanwhile doing my homework, and trying to clear all the stones from the path, in case I decide to walk it.

Good to see you on the board, bro. There are a couple of us old guys on now.

If you want to go another route: http://www.anonymizer.com/splash.shtml?to=

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300 Kleen: If Hushmail cannot be traced when both ends of the communication are through Hushmail, what about when only the sender is a Hushmail account?

I want to send something to a guy with a Hotmail account, from my Hushmail account. Won't my Hushmail message stay on the hard drive of his computer, and couldn't that get traced back to me? I know that my received Hushmail messages don't seem to stay on my computer at all. I have to be connected to Hushmail to read them. My Netscape email, though, seems to go into a folder on my hard drive. That's why I don't know how any of this works, I've got these two different models. Again, I'm really sorry, bros, to obsess about this.

Starting Over: Sorry, bro, but I think just about anybody on this board over, say, 30, is an "old guy." I know you aren't planning to "go gently into that good night," but I meant no offense.

Thanks, man, I'll look forward to hearing from you.

I was just over at the ziplip.com site. (I also looked at Big Truck's anonymizer.com site. It's now pay for play, but worth a look). Anyway, I got a ziplip account. It looks like you can send a "secured" email through ziplip that "expires" after a period of time. The recipient also needs a password to open the message. That seems more secure than Hushmail. I sent a secured message to my regular university email, and found that the message from ziplip still contained my ziplip account. I'm gonna wait for the 24 hours and see if it "shreds," as advertised.

Is there anyway the feds could track me down through the account number left on the message that came in from ziplip to the receiving account? (Jeez, listen to me! I sound like James Bond or something!). I tell ya, bros, this mail order shit just really spooks me. Too bad I'm not talking about grass or something. If that were the case, I'd just go score, smoke, and not give the whole thing another thought. Talking gear, though, and I think the whole DEA is out to nail my ass! WTF!

Bjaarki

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"'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten,
high under Heaven, the hero's name." - Hrolf Krakki's Saga (Iceland)