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Kry

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Got this from a post over at Renegade thought I would bring it here for all the Bro's to read.

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At one time or another, most of us have suffered from acne. Acne can be one of the most demoralizing conditions of all
since it takes away a persons sense of well being and self confidence. Ever since I was 18, I have suffered from
moderate acne until I came accross pantothenic acid (Vit B5). I know many of you will be skeptical (I was to), but it
really does work. Last year my acne cleared up totaly on a dose of 5 grams per day of pantothenic acid. I now take a
maintenance dose of 2 grams per day and have not had one single pimple in the last 6 months. Below is the research
paper that prompted me to take pantothenic acid. The research was conducted in Singapore almost 3 years ago and the
results were staggering. Of the 100 patients in the study, all of them had a near 100% remission of their acne. I think that
this study has not been publisized in the west because the drug companies would loose so much money if people realized
that acne could be cured by something a cheap and simple and pantothenic acid.

Even if you don't regularly get acne, pantothenic acid is a great way to prevent post cycle flare-ups. Here is the research
paper. If anyone has any questions, feel free to email me.

Pantothenic Acid in the Treatment of Acne Vulgaris "A Medical Hypothesis"

by Lit-Hung Leung, M.D.

This article originally appeared in the scientifically prestigious Journal of Orthromolecular Medicine Vol. 12 Number 2,
1997. The version below is from a reprint of the original article and revisions were made in December 1998.

The Pathogenesis of Acne Vulgaris: A Medical Hypothesis

Over the years the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris has been extensively studied including, the structure and function of the
pilosebaceous follicle, the physiology of sebum, microflora in acne vulgaris, and abnormal follicular keratinization,
considered to be one of the earliest events in acne formation. Despite the concerted effort of many scientists, internists,
pathologists and dermatologists, the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris remains largely elusive.

In this paper, I would like to approach this problem from a different perspective. My clinical observations suggest that
acne vulgaris may be closely related to the consumption of diets, which are rich in fat content. This impression is by no
means novel. Textbooks do briefly mention this correlation though, more often than not, it is dismissed as irrelevant.
However, my observations have led to quite the contrary conclusions. Not only is the fat content of food closely related
to acne vulgaris but it forms some sort of linear relationship with the disease process. The more fat the patient consumes,
the more severe will be the acne process. This observation is in line with the opinion of many dermatologists that
chocolate, which is composed mainly of the creamy part of milk, and has a high degree of fat content, is bad for acne.
Significantly, in this group of patients, any deliberate attempt in trying to avoid a fatty diet over a period of weeks, if not
days, will often result in important compound, cholesterol, which in turn is basically synthesized from units of acetyl-CoA.
In the synthetic process, the body naturally is always trying not only to reach for a normal level of androgens, but an
optimal level, so as to allow the body to function at its best. However, this is not always possible, and the normal level
reached may not represent the optimal level. This is natures flexible way of dealing with shortage of essential dietary
elements in any form to achieve a level that is just enough to manage the present situation, leaving a variable degree of
shortage from the optimal level. In the present instance, in the two groups of boys, one group may have a normal level of
androgens that is falling short of the optimum. One possible explanation for this is that there is a lack of basic building
blocks, the acetyl-CoAs, which deter the body from operating at peak efficiency. If this is a viable possibility, it suggests
that a plentiful supply or a deficiency of acetyl-CoA in the body may play a role in the acne process. this is certainly
possible. Aside from its role in the synthesis of the sex hormones, acetyl-CoA, of which Coenzyme-A is the important
component, it is also important in fatty acid metabolism as an acyl carrier in the lengthening and degradation of long chain
fatty acids by adding or removing acyl groups in the metabolic process.

Acne vulgaris is related to lipid metabolism as well as the sex hormones, both of which have a lot to do with
Coenzyme-A. This relationship provides a reasonable ground to link up the acne process to Coenzyme-A and to
investigate the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris along this line.

The Importance of Coenzyme-A

In trying to link acne vulgaris to Coenzyme-A, it is important to have a hypothesis supporting some basic facts. A closer
look at Coenzyme-A may provide the evidence.

A Sharing scenario; As a coenzyme active in both fatty acid metabolism and sex hormone synthesis, Coenzyme-A is
shared between two different metabolic processes. This is not uncommon in biochemical reactions in metabolism, where
a coenzyme is often shared among a number of reactions. Coenzyme-A is arguably the most important coenzyme in the
body, and when a coenzyme is involved in the metabolic process to such an extent as this, it becomes legitimate to ask if
a shortage and deficiency is possible. To answer this, a brief look at the structure of Coenzyme-A is warranted.

Coenzyme-A is formed from adenosine triphosphate, cysteine, and pantothenic acid. Of these pantothenic acid is the
only component that is a vitamin, and must be provided from our dietary intake. Could there be an insufficient intake of
pantothenic acid resulting in a deficiency in Coenzyme-A, which would leave the body unable to cope with all the
reactions, that it has to perform with that all-important coenzyme? Conventional wisdom does not think so. It is suggested
that pantothenic acid, being ubiquitous, can be had from whatever kind of food that is taken in, and that there is no
question as to its deficiency in our body. However, a deficiency is still possible. After all, when so many reactions are
dependent on the same agent, its demand must be tremendous. Shortage under such circumstances is not entirely
impossible.

The Crucial Question and the New Theory

If the question of deficiency of Coenzyme-A does come up, how does it affect acne, knowing its importance in fatty acid
metabolism and sex hormone synthesis? This is the crucial question. This is where the new hypothesis on the pathogenesis
of acne vulgaris is based, and this is where it diverges from conventional medical ideas. The author's proposed hypothesis
for the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris is that the disease process is not caused by androgens, or any other sex hormones,
but rather, the disease process results from a defect in lipid metabolism that is secondary to a deficiency in pantothenic
acid, hence Coenzyme-A. Coenzyme-A, in carrying out its function efficiently both as an agent in fatty acid metabolism
and an agent in androgen and sex hormone synthesis, has to be present in sufficient amounts, and anything less than
sufficient will result in some compromise.

Mother Nature's Choice

Faced with the dilemma of a shortage of Coenzyme-A the body will tend to make a choice that is to the best advantage
of the individual. The body does so by largely maintaining the functionally more important reaction, while at the same time
slowing down the lesser important one. The choice here is a relatively simple one. Nature will seek to take care of the
synthesis of hormones first, because continuation of the species depends on the development of the sex organs. Fatty
acid metabolism is, for the time being, at least in part halted. Lipids start to accumulate in the sebaceous glands, sebum
excretion is increased, and acne begins to appear. When there is enough Coenzyme-A in the body, however, both
reactions will be well taken care of. There are enough sex hormones for the sex organs to develop. The lipids in the
sebaceous glands are completely metabolized by sufficient Coenzyme-A, and there will be no unwanted lipid in the
glands and little sebum will be excreted to cause acne vulgaris.

The Mystery Revealed

The mechanism proposed above may be the reason why two groups of adolescent boys both with a normal blood level
of androgen may exhibit differences in the incidence of acne. The group with acne is the one that has not enough
pantothenic acid in the body, whereas in the other group, pantothenic acid levels are not deficient.

This new theory seems to work well here, and can be tested in other metabolic situations. In the case in which
endogenous androgen stimulates acne, whereas exogenous does not, the reasoning for the observation is the same. Any
endogenous androgen synthesis will require the participation of extra amount of pantothenic acid. This will channel off
some of those that are doing the work of fatty acid metabolism. Consequently, fatty acid metabolism becomes less
efficient and the individual is more prone to have acne.

Today, the percentage of adult women that have acne is increasing. Some of these women may not have had acne as
teenagers, and are surprised to find that they have to deal with this unpleasant problem during their adult years. Acne can
have profound psychological and social effects on adults, just as it does in teenagers.

Many women in their 30s and 40s experience high levels of life stress because they shoulder the multiple burdens of
career, child rearing, and housework, and often the responsibility of caring for their own aging parents. Perhaps this
increasing level of stress has contributed to the rising incidence of acne in adult women.

Microcomedo

Acne vulgaris of adulthood is similar to teenage acne. The pilosebaceous units of the face, chest, and back can be
involved. The primary lesion of acne is the "microcomedo." A microscopic plug develops due to the presence of
thickened and impacted keratin (dead cells) and excess oil production (sebum). More and more of the keratin and sebum
back up behind this plug and form a distended follicular pore. This results in either an open comedo (blackhead) or a
closed comedo (whitehead). The enlarged pilosebaceous structure allows Propionibacterium acne's, an anaerobic
diphtheroid, to proliferate. Propionibacterium acne's contributes to the breakdown of lipids to free fatty acids, which are
highly inflammatory. The distended follicle can rupture, causing further inflammation and the development of papules,
pustules and nodules.

Acne Rosacea

Another skin disease that simulates and can coexist with acne vulgaris is acne rosacea. This skin problem is common in
women, most often between the ages of 30 and 50. The face, especially the middle third, is erythematous and flushed.
Multiple telangiectasias are frequently present. Small papules and pustules, which may look similar to those seen in acne
vulgaris, are common, but the microcomedo component of acne vulgaris is absent in blepharitis. Rosacea keratitis is less
common, but potentially vision-threatening. Rosacea is another skin disorder that is frequently stress related.

What about premenstrual flare? In the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle, progesterone in is secreted abundantly by the
corpus lutcum. This naturally will take up a lot of pantothenic acid from the body's pantothenic pool leading to a
re-distribution of the vitamin and putting enormous pressure on fatty acid metabolism. When this metabolic process is not
performing satisfactorily, lipid begins to accumulate in the sebaccous glands, an increase in sebum is excreted, and acne
follows. That is why even thought progesterone has no effect on sebaceous gland activity, an increasing level of
progesterone in the late stage of the luteal phase leaves the acne patient with a prominent flare.

Similarly, this may explain why eunuchs rarely exhibit acne. Since so few sex hormones are secreted, the pantothenic acid
pool can deploy a more significant portion of its reserve to metabolize fatty acids. When this is efficiently done, little
sebum is excreted, and no acne is formed.

This theory also explains the paradoxical problem of equal sex hormones that counts. Both males and females need sex
hormones for the development of sex organs and the secondary sexual characteristics. The only difference is that in the
male, the female sex hormones predominate. Apparently the synthesis of sex hormones uses a large portion of the
pantothenic acid pool, leaning a relative shortage of it to efficiently metabolize fatty acids. The result is that acne starts to
erupt, at the same time the sex organs begin to develop at puberty.

The reason acne first erupts at puberty is not, therefore, endocrinological, but rather secondary to the deployment of a
substantial amount of pantothenic acid for the purposes of synthesis of sex hormones, leaving a relative deficiency for
fatty acid metabolism. The size of this pantothenic acid pool and the ability with which the individual can deploy reserves
from the pool varies and is likely to be influenced by genetic and dietary factors.

In conditions in which there is an increase in secretion of any hormone whose synthesis requires the participation of
pantothenic acid, acne may erupt. This is frequently seen with those hormone secreting tumours of the ovary, testis and
the adrenals. The rapid decline in incidence of acne after adolescence can also be explained. After the sex organs are
fully developed, less sex hormones are required, leaving an adequate supply of pantothenic acid to serve the function of
fatty acid metabolism. When this function is efficiently accomplished, sebum secretion dries up, and acne starts to fade.

Deficiency in Lipid Metabolism

In linking the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris to a deficiency in lipid metabolism and pantothenic acid, it is worthwhile to
remember that fatty acid metabolism is not the sole domain of pantothenic acid. There are some other essential dietary
factors that are also of importance in the same process. Together they form a system that will make the whole metabolic
process as efficient as possible. Preliminary studies by the author suggest that, together with pantothenic acid, biotin as
well as nicotinamide help to further improve the therapeutic results. By themselves alone, they are far less effective in
helping acne patients than with pantothenic acid, and this serves to support the suggestion that pantothenic acid plays a
central role in lipid metabolism. Lipid metabolism is a complicated process, and is often intertwined with other metabolic
processes, sharing with them common coenzymes in widely different reactions. When there is an increase in level of some
of these coenzymes, there may be a shift in the directions of some ongoing reactions, and may affect lipid metabolism as a
result. This can manifest clinically as acne vulgaris. To illustrate this, there are reports showing that acne may be induced
by administration of large doses of vitamin B12 alone or in combination with B6. Cessation of the administration of these
vitamins will bring a halt to the acne eruptions. If the body is in a relative deficiency state in B6 and B12, administration of
the vitamins will enhance the reactions that involve the participation of these vitamins. This will set up a chain of events,
some of which entail the participation of pantothenic acid. With the total pantothenic acid pool fixed relative to an
increase in other vitamins, emphasis of any reaction involving pantothenic acid will automatically mean a cutting back on
other reactions that require it as a coenzyme. This will often include those involving lipid metabolism, resulting in a certain
degree of deficiency in that metabolic process, hence the increased incidence of acne vulgaris in these studies.

Stress Related Acne

It is perhaps relevant here to consider stress as another common factor that is known to affect acne adversely. Stress in
many forms poses as an aggravating factor in acne lesions. Lack of sleep at night, pre-examination tension, any
psychological problem that may worry the patient will bring on new acne lesions. To understand this, one should recall
that in combating stress, the body will secrete glucocorticoids from the adrenal glands as a means to adapt to stress, what
is commonly known as the fight-or-flight reaction. The glucocorticoids, like the sex hormones, are derivatives of
cholesterol, and increased demand for this hormone will draw on the pantothenic acid pool. Lipid metabolism may
therefore be compromised, rendering the body more prone to acne.

If pantothenic acid deficiency is indeed the main causative agent in the pathogenesis of acne vulgaris, it is logical to ask
how much pantothecic acid patients are lacking in absolute amounts.

Deficiency Syndromes

Nutritional requirements can rarely be met through a well balanced diet, and dietary supplements, including vitamins, are
often required. It is the generally held belief of the medical profession that vitamins, though essential to life and not
synthesized in the body, are not required in great amounts. This view was challenged, notably by Linus Pauling. In his
book, How to Live Longer and Feel Better, Pauling provided vigorous proof, through comparative studies in animals and
from an evolutionary point of view, that vitamin C supplements are needed if an optimal state of health is to be achieved.
Not only is supplementation necessary, gut the amount required is far greater than most people believe, as with the case
of vitamin C where the optimal dose may be 10 or more grams a day. This issue was a point of heated debate in the
1970s and 1980s.

Though Pauling has quite a large following, by and large, the issue was dismissed by the mainstream medical profession,
because of a lack of theoretical support and a general bias against nutritional and vitamin therapy. But, in view of the new
evidence suggested in thes and many other papers, it seems appropriate that the issue be considered.

How Much Pantothenic Acid?

In trying to determine the amount of pantothinic acid necessary to relieve acne patients of their symptoms, Pauling's
experience with vitamin C provides a good guideline. Pauling had for a long time recommended vitamin C in high dosages
to achieve optimal health. Radically different from what is recommended by the Food and Nutrition Board of the
National Research Council (who recommended 60 mg daily). Pauling's recommended daily intake of vitamin C amounts
to several grams a day. The recommendation was stepped up to 15-20 grams a day in his later years. Using these
recommendations as a background, it becomes somewhat easier to arrive at a proper dosage for pantothentic acid in the
treatment of acne vulgaris.

Pantothenic acid, which acquires its name from the Greek word meaning ubiquitous, is present in all tissues. Its universal
presence is an indication of its importance. This is further reflected by the many reactions that it catalyzes. It should not
come as a surprise then, that the amount of pantothenic acid required for optimal health, is of the same order of that of
vitamin C. Based on this argument, the dose of pantothenic acid administered to the acne patients was up to 10 grams a
day, and the result of these studies were first reported in Medical Hypotheses.

The Effect of Pantothenic Acid on Acne Vulgaris

One hundred patients of Chinese descent were included in the study, 45 males and 55 females. The age ranged from 10
to 30, and with about 80% between 13 and 23. The severity of the disease process varied. They were given 10 grams of
pantothenic acid a day in four divided doses. To enhance the effect, the patients were also asked to apply a cream
consisting of 20% by weight of pantothenic acid to the affected area, four to six tines a day. With this treatment regimen,
the response is as prompt as it is impressive. There is a noticeable decrease in sebum secretion on the face usually 2-3
days after initiation of therapy. The face becomes less oily. After two weeks, existing lesions start to regress while the
rate of eruption of new acne lesions begins to slow down. In cases with moderate severity, the condition is normally in
complete control in about eight weeks, with most of the lesions gone and new lesions only to erupt occasionally. In those
patients with severe acne lesions, complete control may take months, sometimes up to six months or longer. In some of
these cases, in order to get a more immediate response, it may even be necessary to step up the dose to 15-20 grams a
day. In any event, the improvement is normally a gradual and steady process, with perhaps minor interruptions by
premenstrual flare or excessive intakes of oily food. With this form of treatment, another striking feature is the size of the
facial skin pore.

The pore size becomes noticeably smaller within one to two weeks, very often much sooner. Like sebum excretion, the
pores will continue to shrink until the skin becomes much finer, giving the patient a much more beautiful skin.

This decrease in skin pore size is presumably related to sebum excretion. When an acne lesion is formed, there is in the
epithelial cell of the hair follicle an accumulation of lipids, leaving the epithelial cells bulky and the lumen of the gland
narrowed. When there is a concomitant increase in sebum flow, the follicle has no choice but to hypertrophy to
accommodate the changes, resulting in an enlarged skin pore and coarse skin. With the administration of pantothenic
acid, the whole process is reversed. Lipid metabolism becomes normal and efficient. The epithelium is no longer laden
with fat droplets, there is a decrease in sebum excretion, the hypertrophy process is not required. The skin pores revert
to a much smaller size and the skin becomes smooth and fine.

As acne lesions tend to subside spontaneously after puberty, some patients do not need a maintenance dose. But, if a
patient is in his mid-teens, when the sexual characteristics have yet to fully develop, it may be necessary for replacement
therapy to be implemented. This maintenance dose, can be lowered, or increased with the clinical symptoms. A
maintenance dose will not only act as a preventive measure against sporadic eruption, but the extra pantothenic acid will
help to ease the relative deficiency state, and likely improve the general health of the patient.


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Great post, I am going to try it myself.


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posted August 24, 2000 08:05 AM

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Good post......BUMP

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Good info...Big bump for Kry

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posted August 24, 2000 08:31 AM

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Can you buy it otc or do you need a script?


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Kry

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posted August 24, 2000 08:34 AM

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It is Vitamin B5 you can get it almost everywhere and it is cost effective.

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Kry

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I am going to bump this up before I go to bed for all of you that have not yet had the chance to read it.

bump it up.....

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Kry

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posted August 26, 2000 06:26 AM

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I am going to bump this one last time...


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I'll bump this... some good info


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Out of curiosity, would taking 10g a day be hard on the liver?

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Here's a quote from my Nutrition Almanac regarding pantothenic acid:

"Pantothenic acid stimulates the adrenal glands and increases the production of cortisone and other adrenal hormones important for healthy skin and nerves."

Isn't cortisone like a weak version of cortisol? If so, B5 might not be the best post cycle supplement.

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very good info...I'll give it a bump so people can read it...

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F*cking Awesome!


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good post i bump it up

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so it is just vit-b5. i just go to the health food store and buy it? and how long does it take to kick in and clear your skin? any help, here? thanx. just curious on how long it takes to work. if you could write back or email me at [email protected]
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Good post i may try this.

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Thanks for the info. I'll have to pass it on to a friend of mine. He never gets acne until the last 4 or 6 weeks of a cycle and then he breaks out everywhere.

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Kry

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I break out also in like that last few weeks of my cycles I wonder why that is? I seems that my skin will clear up at the beggining then one day I wake up and i am covered


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THANKS FOR THE INFO !!!
ILL GIVE THIS A TRY FOR SURE.

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Went to the pharmacy and grocery store and could not find it. Where do you bros get it?


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go to GNC, it is b-5 but the bottle says Pantothenic Acid


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what about what grasshopper mentioned?
is he right?


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thanks for the info,bump

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Good info thanks bro!


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I would like to know if grasshopper is right too.

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superdave

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posted August 28, 2000 08:49 PM

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WTF, it didnt bump...BUMP

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grasshopper

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posted August 28, 2000 10:55 PM

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Here's some info on cortisone from the web:

"Cortisone is classed as a glucocorticoid with cortisol and corticosterone; its effects include increased glucose release from the liver, increased liver glycogen synthesis, and decreased utilization of glucose by the tissues. These actions tend to counter the effects of insulin and may aggravate or mimic diabetes in sufficiently high doses."

"The hormone causes increased breakdown of proteins and decreased protein synthesis..."

Full text can be found here:
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0813671.html

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