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DSPO

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posted August 23, 2000 06:11 PM

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I need some help on my first cycle. I plan on using 200 mg of Deca and 100 mg of Primo weekly. The Deca that I have comes in 50 mg/amps and the primo is 100 mg/amps.

What size of Pins should I use for Primo and Deca? From reading the other post it looks like I should use 23 gauge x 1.5 (Can I use a 1-inch pin)? Are there advantages to either size?

Can I mix the two products into one shot?

If so, I am not sure what size syringe I should use. Not sure if 1 amp = 1 ml?

Should I warm up each of the vials prior to usage to try to thin out the gear?

What about pin brands I noticed that 2Thick sells two brands (Termo and B-D) - Which ones are better or are they the same.

Thanks for any advice



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GAMUSCLES

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posted August 23, 2000 08:05 PM

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Ok DSPO, sounds like you need a little help here. Typically, most guys use either 22 or 23 gauge needles 1 1/2". Some will even use a 21 gauge. Unless you are very thickly muscled already you might get away with using 1". My experience with 1" is that they simply aren't long enough and sometimes some of the juice will come back out the pin hole.......this is a problem I do not have with 1 1/2" needles. 2Thick sells the two main brands of pins. I typically use B&D although I have heard that Terumo's tend to be sharper. Hell, you can even order them from a Vet supply via mail which I have done before too but you must specify they are for horses or ponies. The syringe itsself usually holds 3cc's which is normally plenty for 1cc Deca and 1cc Primo. Deca & Primo are both oil based so they can be drawn up together into the same syringe. You should not combine water based steroids and oil based steroids together in the same syringe. Hope this helps. Good luck


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bgriff

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posted August 23, 2000 08:38 PM

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use 1 1/2 pins for glute and 1" pins fro quad shots

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DSPO

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posted August 23, 2000 11:55 PM

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Thanks GAMUSCLES & bgriff

How many .cc are in each amp? My gear comes in Monday and I want to order the pins so I can start ASAP

Any Thoughts on warming up the gear?

I love this Board best source of info I have found.

DSPO

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jc21

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posted August 24, 2000 03:08 AM

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u got your pin help, here is my opinion, not enough gear, i no girls on that much, double it man! at 400mg deca and 200mg primo u will see mcuh better results and should see no side effects.


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ANVIL222

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posted August 24, 2000 04:47 AM

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ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
YES
YES
YES
YES
BOTH THERMO AND B.D. ARE VERY GOOD.
GO WITH THE BEST PRICE.


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NEWMAXX

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posted August 24, 2000 08:53 AM

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The Primo is 1CC=100mg/ml..as you stated

You said the Deca comes in 50mg amps...1CC = 50mg/ml. So you will need 4CC to = 200mg.

I would double check your amps/vials for doasage.

If it is all correct you will need:

2 3cc syringes per injection day.

1) 3CCs Deca
2) 1CC Deca and 1CC Primo

In any event the pins come in boxes of a 100..buy the 23g 1.5" Syringes

Also get a 100 18g pins for drawing the fluids (this will make you life easier)

I use the Thermos and they are very sharp (less pain)

They are all pretty cheap.

Go to 2THicks site...he will set you up.


BUT... You should do some more resarch. I waited 6 months to research before I jumped in....you probably need more gear.

I am on 400mg Primo and 400mg Deca (tapered) / weekly. and this is considered and newbie cycle (which I am)

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DSPO

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posted August 24, 2000 03:54 PM

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Thanks NewMaxx & JC21.

I know that this is a Girls Scout cycle...It is by design...I am a siding on the cautious side for my first cycle hoping to get a feel for what I am getting into...Next Cycle will be all out balls to the wall.

Again thanks for all your advice...

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