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 200mg of deca - harmful for gyno?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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one of my nipples is sore.. i'm taking nolvadex already to protect me from the test, but i've read that deca can cause gyno through a different pathway. i'm only taking 200mg/week. should i discontinue using it anyway?    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
Bump this for the vets. This bro needs help.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1055 |
BRO IF YOU ARE GETTING GYNO ON 200MG OF DECA, JUICE IS NOT FOR YOU! Sory but you are way too sensitive, I think you are paranoid, let's hope so for your sake! I didn't see where you mentioned you were taking test, that is where the problem is, how much test are you on and how much nolva are you taking? ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 23, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 23, 2000).]  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 65 |
I agree with Decca man if you cant handle 200mgs then skip the juice cause you will have to at the least do around 400 mgs to see anything..... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
There's your answer, Decibel. Decaman is the resident expert here on your type of problem. Bjaarki ------------------ BECOME SOMEONE'S HERO! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
i know 200mg is nothing! i'm mostly taking it to help my joints. i'm using 750mg of sus and 20mg/day of nolva. next week i'm supposed to go up to 1000mg. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
I am by no means a vet, but I would say that if your adventurous you could try something totally different like Winstrol or Primo. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1528 |
Sorry guys, but my training partner got gyno from 200/week. Stop it right away if you can feel it coming. He has continued to use AS, he just shys away from progesterone prone drugs. He isn't too sensitive towards estrogen, but is very sensitive towards progesterone. He never went above 200/week and had to get that shit cut out. Slopain [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited August 23, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 334 |
There isnt a different pathway to gyno. Its all caused by the particular tissue (in the breast under the nipple) and a persons disposition to estrogen. One thing to understand is EVERYTHING IS TESTOSTERONE! Deca is just a derivative of testosterone, less androgenic (and therefore less anabolic) but a form of it in any case. Testosterone is more harsh (being more androgenic), but any "steroid" is just a form of testosterone. The introduction of exogenous (from the outside) testosterone throws your endocrine system out of whack, the exrta test tells your body that there is an imbalance, so it produces estrogen to try and strike a balance. If you are prone to it, the receptors in your breast tissue sense the estrogen and respond by growing you your very own set of boobies! A.K.A. Gyno It all works by the same pathways, the only exception being that some drugs cause a rise in progesterone more than estrogen (I wont even get into it...). Either way, if you are sensative to estrogen (which it sounds like mabye you are) and anti estrogen is in order. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1055 |
If 20mg is not doing the trick you can increase to 30, also what the hell are you doing increasing the test if you think you are seeing the onset of gyno? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 |
I just entered week 4 Bro, doing 400Mg Deca, and Test, and (of course) Clom. I had some sensitivity about week 2, right on the nip tip. I was tempted to break out the Nolva, but it passed. I was told that the sensation increases for the whole area, as gyno begins to set in. Maybe someone who has had gyno could expand on this? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1055 |
Monster is right arimidex would be a hell of a lot better. I will stick to the sus being your problem , not the minimal deca dosage.If you can get proviron that would help too ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
could i take eq instead? i've never switched drugs in the middle of a cycle. wouln't it take forever for the eq to kick in? decaman, i had planned on increasing the dose of sus because that's how i had planned out my cycle. you think i shouldn't? thanks all for your advice. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1055 |
WEll slopain is saying a bro of his had probs at 200mg , that is very rare, i know a ton of bros none ever got gyno from deca, at that dosage especially. I would increase nothing if i were you , and if the nolva does not help, and your condition worsens you will have to stop all together, unless you want some fucker pulling a shrimp out of your chest. Arimidex if you can get it, and if you really feel you are in trouble with this, is your best bet. Oh hell email me i will help you ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
decaman - thanks for your help. i think i'll increase the nolva for a week and keep the test the same. if it doesn't go away then i'll get some arimidex. i think i know where to get it, but DAMN, it's expensive!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 399 |
Gyno on 200mg of deca?? I wouldn't say that juice isn't for you or anything, but different people react differently to gear. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1528 |
I agree decaman he admits himself he is just a freak of sensitivity when it comes to Progesterone. But I repeat the guy is doing a cycle with me soon that includes 1 gram of sus250, EQ (in place of deca), Dbol, and some winny. The difference is at this time we can fight off the estrogen (proviron,nolvadex, and clomid) whereas the progesterone he is helpless against. Deca is a fine and safe drug - he wishs he could use it but he can't. Slopain | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 431 |
Guys I got gyno off of only 200mg of deca. This does not mean that AS are not for you just that more planning and special considerations need to be taken. First if the deca is the problem then you need to stay away from both deca and anadrol as both exhibit progestinic actions in the body by mimicing the progesterone molecule and activating the receptor. I can use test with out the problem (or easily control it)but can never touch deca again unless RU486 proves to be effective and a proper dose is determined for bodybuilding use. I think decaman was a little presumptious in saying that AS aren't for you but you do need to take added precautions against the progesterone. Once again though, just because you are sensitive to progesterone doesn't mean you are sensitive to estrogen and even if you are you can control this problem for sure with Arimidex. By the way I bet your gyno is from the test rather than the deca as it is pretty rare for someone to be sensitive to deca at your dosages. (Spoken by someone who is!....) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1055 |
Okay maybe I was a little presumptious, I have just never encountered anyone getting gyno on 200mg of deca when used by itself, I hadn't noticed that he was also on test originally, but I had already made the statement that he should not use A.S. anyway, and apparently I was wrong there too because some of you have gotten gyno on 200mg , albeit it is very very rare. I still feel and I am sure we can all agree his problem lies in the sus and not that deca. ------------------ |
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posted August 23, 2000 04:42 PM