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Omega44

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posted August 22, 2000 05:38 PM

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someone told me that dnp is the way to go for rapid fat lose. i would like to know it it also has a catabolic effect on muscle, and where you could get some (is it an illegal drug)


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 22, 2000 05:56 PM

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DNP's intended purpose is that of an insectacide. Its poision plain and simple, you would be well suited to stay away from this product. Syntrax inovations produces an item called Lipokenetics. The main ingredient in this over the counter thermogenic is Usnic Acid. The jury is out on its safty relative to consumption.
However, it will mimick the effects of dnp, resulting in DRASTIC reduction in fat. Follow the recommended dosing, Do NOT exceed that recomended dose.

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Flexxx

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posted August 22, 2000 06:00 PM

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Do some research! Usnic Acid is actually causes more damage than DNP. By this time it has been taken off the shelf.

DNP is Toxic, and LETHAL at even moderate dosages. If you don't know how to use it then don't even think about it. I have known people who have used it, it is a week of living hell when you are on it.

It also causes DNA alterations, which are very carcinogenic

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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 22, 2000 06:07 PM

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Excuse me? your referring to my response? Do some research? Have you visited your local supplement supplier. I suggest you watch your mouth you lack any appriciable standing on this forum.

The effects of Usnic Acid have been exagerated in the same manner that Effedrine has within the media. Usnic Acid, when abused would indeed cause brain damage do to the ELEVATED core BODY TEMPERATURE. That is why I recommened he FOLLOW THE dose on the LABEL, you little shit.

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posted August 22, 2000 06:20 PM

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I'm sensing tension.....

What can I say? Just trying to lighten things up.

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GymRatSD

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posted August 22, 2000 06:40 PM

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I would take what Flexxx has to say very lightly... he gave some crappy information on drug testing, and here he goes again with the fat burners. I think we all know now who needs to do the research before posting.


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Maverik

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posted August 22, 2000 07:10 PM

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Give 'em hell, Twisted Steal! Omega: I remember you were the one who asked about losing fat the other day. Don't, I repeat don't fuck with any drugs yet. You have alot of fat to lose and people who are carrying alot of fat will lose it very fast at first. Use dieting first combined with a thermogenic aid like Xenadrine. If you must take anything try clenbuterol. But I am telling you with a good diet and lots of cardio you can lose the fat that you need to lose in 12 weeks without DNP or any other drugs. True it will be alot of work but it will be healthier for you in the long run to stay away from drugs and lose the weight by dieting and cardio. But hey, it's your body. Do what you want. I am just offering advice to try and help you.

Peace...Mav


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bigrand

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posted August 22, 2000 08:07 PM

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DNP has been tested and has been shown to NOT be carcenogenic. The principle with DNP use is to use VERY sparingly just to loose large amounts of fat fast. This stuff should be only used a few times and then maintained with a thermogenic. I feel the same with Usnic acid. It has been said that it is anti-microbial and can fuck with the chromosome seperation. Im not sure how reliable this is cuz im not sure of the amount of testing done. I plan to only use drugs to loose weight until i get to a size i like or to loose quickly if i gain again. Long term use of amy of this shit might be very dangerous, we just dont know. Once you are at a weight you like, maintain with proper diet and excersise and use the pills sparingly.


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toby

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posted August 22, 2000 09:26 PM

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I agree with Maverick, if you are pretty heavy, you will lose alot of fat fast at first. Try hydroxycut or as he said xenadrine, it's close to the same thing.


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Pup'nIrn

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posted August 22, 2000 10:48 PM

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Boys don't down what you don't have the balls to research and then experiment with!!!!!! I have used DNP extensively and have had excellent results. If you really look at most supplments in our sports , they are simply as safe as you want them to be. A dipshit can die with aspirin and a smart man can grow with insulin! Yes its poison, but so is that fuck'n cheese burger ya just woofed down!


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giantset

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posted August 23, 2000 12:14 AM

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Amen Pup'nIrn. I no longer use DNP but it can certainly be used safely and effectively if you are intelligent about it. It is probably best that people think it is to deadly to use. If they don't take the time to research it and make shit like this up then they aren't intellegent or resourceful enough to use it properly then anyways.

Later,
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Bchemist

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posted August 23, 2000 12:26 AM

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I agree with everyone here. Use of this compound requires a high degree of research, common sense, and experience with your body and how it reacts to other drugs. We actually studied DNP briefly back in college. It was the original and most effective weight loss/fat burning agent back in the 1920's. Doctors gave it to their patients to lose weight. The only problem is that half of the time, the doctor also lost the patient. DNP works by disrupting electronic phosphorilation in your body. An intermediate process is caused to go out of control until the amount of DNP is removed from the body. It causes your body temperature to increase dramatically and thus thermogenically burn fat. However if you take too much, which is typical of the "more is better" attitude that most newbie lifters have, you will cook your brain. I personally don't have the courage to try it. I'll stick to discipline, ECA, and my treadmill.


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POPEblackSTEEL

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posted August 23, 2000 12:47 AM

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What about DNP and coming off a cycle....

Will DNP spare muscle loss from a test cyp cycle as well as burn fat...

I havent read anything on here from people who have used it that way.. I am interested in trying after this next cycle i am preparing ...


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supreme

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posted August 23, 2000 12:50 AM

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Big Rand, Pup'nirn & Bchemist are all correct. DNP can be used safely. I am on a 600mg/day cycle right now! only feeling a little warm.

You need to research DNP in the search, then at QFAC.com in the Danarchy archives & then at mesomorphosis.com. read the articles and then the refferences AND GOTO THE ORIGINAL STUDIES.

DNP has not proven to be mutagenic or carcinogenic, although I believe large doses of usnic acid can be-again read the actual research and decide for yourself

The best empirical evidence on how to use DNP safely and comfortably is Animal's DNP manual-get it!

Later!

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Pharm Animal

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posted August 23, 2000 01:11 AM

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*ahem!*

bchem, bro...you meant oxidative phosphorylation! don't disappoint me, my chemical brother! LOL!

by the way!

i really hate it when people on here give out advice that is totally false or when the person giving the advice doesn't know the info, and pretends he does...and just gives advice anyways!

Flexxx <and select others>...PLEASE do everyone a favor and MAKE SURE your info is correct before posting it here....and if you MUST post on it and don't know the whole story...please say so, and ask other bros that have the knowledge to post what they know!!!

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Bchemist

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posted August 23, 2000 01:14 AM

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Oh my GOD! Thanks Pharm-talk about a brain dump. It is oxidative phosphorylation...duh...I was always better at Organic Chem anyways


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dar2drm

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posted August 23, 2000 01:36 AM

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I have used DNP once with great results. There is some researching to do though if you want to be safe and do it right. For the best effect there are several suplements you should take in conjuction. There is a very extensive article on a site called AnabolicsInternational.com. A must read if you plan on useing DNP.


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WCP

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posted August 23, 2000 02:11 AM

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BChemist..or Pharm Animal..please email me on this topic.

Thank you,
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Maverik

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posted August 23, 2000 03:09 PM

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Sure, I agree with the statement that DNP and also t3 and clen are pretty safe when used right. But this guy has said he is carrying about 25% BF and alot of this can be lost without drugs. Some of you point to drugs too quickly. Sure if you do your research you can learn how to use it right but you also could spend that time researching diet and cardio tips instead. And Pup'n'iron: He can lose most of what he needs to lose in the time that he needs to lose it without any drugs. Telling someone to use drugs when they haven't even tried to see how far they can get by proper diet is bad advice. True that the shit can be relatively safe but you must first learn how to diet properly and then try diet drugs only when you can't seem to lose any more weight. No flame intended to anyone here but quit recommending drugs before diet. That is bad advice. Now if someone comes with a question like "I have tried every diet possible and can't seem to get my fat below 9%" then that would be a time to recommend trying some drugs to help. That's just my 2 cents on the subject.

Peace...Mav

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Maverik

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posted August 23, 2000 04:51 PM

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Bump!


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Future One

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posted August 25, 2000 09:46 AM

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What ISN'T carcinogenic these days????


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Jae

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posted August 25, 2000 10:04 AM

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One of the questions posted had me wondering. It was the one about using DNP while coming off a cycle. Will it help burn a little fat picked up by test use or what? Is this something mostly used for getting ripped?


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GetHuge

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posted August 25, 2000 10:08 AM

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DNP will burn fat, but in my opinion, it isn't worth the potential side effects or damage it may cause. Just my .02 cents.


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Jae

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posted August 25, 2000 10:17 AM

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what about a mild dosage? Would it help to burn fat without possible side effects/


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Pup'nIrn

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posted August 25, 2000 10:52 AM

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Jae, the funny this that nobody can tell you that answer. DNP is very person specific. While I have to take 4-600mg to yeild results my brother-in-law used only 200mg. You can lose weight on a lower dosage if and only if you respond to the lower dosage. Thats the best way I can explain it.


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foreverblast

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posted August 25, 2000 12:00 PM

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it wont' burn off any muscle... I am planning to use 200mg per day for a week, followed by a week of ECA, and then another week of DNP..

john


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted August 25, 2000 06:59 PM

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DNP = Do Not Phuck-up.


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