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Future One

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posted August 21, 2000 08:40 PM

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I have everything I need for my next cycle except Primo! ARRHHH!!!! what else is low androgenic other than Primo or Deca??

I have 10cc UpJohn Test. Cyp. 8cc Norandren
and 100 Bioreactor Dbols, I still need 10cc Primo and some Clomids (or Tribulus, whatever I can get easier)

My planned 2 month cycle was as follows:

Week 1:
400mg Deca
3 Dbols a day

Week 2:
400mg Deca
4 Dbols a day

Week 3:
400mg Deca
4 Dbols a day

Week 4:
400mg Deca
3 Dbols a day

Week 5:
200mg Primo
200mg Test

Week 6:
200mg Primo
200mg Test

Week 7:
200mg Primo
200mg Test

Week 8:
200mg Primo
200mg Test
CLomid EOD (Or Tribex at twice the rec. dosage ED)

Week 9:
200mg Primo
200mg Test
CLomid EOD (Or Tribex at twice the rec. dosage ED)

Week 10:
CLomid ED (Or Tribex at twice the rec. dosage ED)

Ok, but getting the Primo(everybody likes Primo dammit!) and the Clomid has been a pain!!

The thing is, I want to put on a good 15lbs
but I'm really dreading GYNO!!!!! so I'm keeping dosages pretty low (I know this looks kiddie to half of you, but it's only my 2nd cycle) So I don't want to mess around with androgenics too much.

I reworked my cycle to this just in case:

Week 1:
200mg Deca
3 Dbols ED

Week 2:
200mg Deca
3 Dbols ED

Week 3:
200mg Deca
100mg Test
3 Dbols ED

Week 4:
200mg Deca
100mg Test
3 Dbols ED

Week 5:
200mg Deca
200mg Test

Week 6:
200mg Deca
200mg Test

Week 7:
200mg Deca
100mg Test

Week 8:
200mg Deca
100mg Test
Clomid (or Trib.)ED

Week 9:
Clomid (or Trib.)ED

I think if I eat a ton of protein and calories I should put on a good 10lbs on that.

Does this look feasible? I have no Nolvadex in hand, so I don't want to take the chance with gyno, even if only gain modestly, we're all in this for the long run, so why take risks??

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cowbell

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posted August 21, 2000 10:33 PM

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get yourself some more D bro, also get the clomid, easy to find and worth it also doesn't cost anmore if you know where to look. also nolva is easy to find also and well worth it to have on hand although you should not need it at these doses. The deca will make your nut go up in your stomach if you do not use clomid!!! my hushmail account is down right now but if you got any questions you can reac me at
bellcal25@yahoo.com
later bro and good luck


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The Ranger

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posted August 21, 2000 10:43 PM

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I personally thick this cycle requires an E2 approval rating......just my 2$ worth....

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cowbell

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posted August 21, 2000 10:47 PM

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I agree with ranger, see what e2 thinks, I personaly think i would at least keep the deca at 400 and not do it at 200 a week and would think about getting a few more Ds for it, but hell maybe it will work well for you.
peace and also just my .02 worth


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Bchemist

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posted August 21, 2000 10:55 PM

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I am going to be blunt on this one. You are putting together a cycle for a woman. You need to DOUBLE that d-bol dosage. You can leave the others alone if you want, but if you expect to gain 5 lbs, let alone 15, you need to up the dosages. Unless you have some amazing genetics, you are going to be very disappointed with the results. My intent was not to flame here, rather to correct what looks like a waste.

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cowbell

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posted August 21, 2000 11:03 PM

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Bchemist said it preety well bro!! up the D or you will be disapointed!!


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big dog

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posted August 21, 2000 11:18 PM

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Thats a waste of gear bro. I have heard nothing but bad things about Bioreactors. Most people are sure they are Methyltest.

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Future One

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posted August 22, 2000 08:33 PM

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Well, ok, I want to KEEP what I gain though!!!

I still want to do the first cycle I mentioned, I agree that the second would be a waste, but if I'm mistaken, don't you lose a lot of what you gain with Dbols? because 20% is water weight? that's why I don't want to overdo the D's. Besides, the dude's right about Bioreactors, but I took my chances because I've heard mixed comments on Russian Dbol, if it's methyltest then I figure 3 a day won't screw me up too bad, maybe give me extra aggression while working out, and give the Deca a kick, I don't know, I'm no expert, that's why I'm asking for oppinions.

If I could get Clomid (and Nolv.) then I'd consider increasing the Test to 300mg but not if I can't get these.


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Future One

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posted August 22, 2000 09:21 PM

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Oh, BTW, I think Tribulus works very well, because all the sides I hear people get with Clomid, I've gotten with Trib.


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