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JUICESEEKER

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From:MEDFORD MA USA
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posted August 21, 2000 06:45 PM

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I am looking to put on some mass without a lot of water rentention.
1)400mg of deca,500 sustanon,30mg d-bol.or
2)500 sus, 400primo, 30mg of d-bol.

I would take them for 8wks.
Please critique!


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300 kleen

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posted August 21, 2000 06:48 PM

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If you are using a test [especially sus] and d-bol in the same cycle you will have water retention whether you want it or not.

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Big Buck

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posted August 21, 2000 06:53 PM

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both cycles are going to make you hold water.

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There is someone out there who is bigger and stronger than u, so....get your ass in the gym!!!!!!!!


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Maverik

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posted August 21, 2000 06:56 PM

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Yep the primo and deca don't cause alot of water retention and that is the only difference I see. You still have two big wter holders in each choice. Any other choices?

Peace...Mav


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JUICESEEKER

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posted August 21, 2000 07:02 PM

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Other options i might consider are......
3)400mg primo, sustanon 500mg, deca 200mg.
4)400mg primo, sustanon 500mg.
5)400mg deca, primo 200mg for 10 wks.

I don't want to take a lot of deca, because of deca dick. I want to use minimal deca for more protein consumption.
And primo is so expensive!


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Krusher

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posted August 21, 2000 07:15 PM

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If water retention is a big issue then use Nolva with the sust/d/dol/primo or deca.


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JUICESEEKER

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posted August 21, 2000 11:42 PM

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SOMEBODY IN CYBER LAND, ANSWER MY INQURIES!


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Bchemist

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posted August 21, 2000 11:49 PM

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If you can afford primo, then you can afford arimidex. You can thus take d-bol and sust and keep water weight to nil if you use arimidex. But I don't know whether or not it will affect your gains from first hand experience.


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liltank

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posted August 22, 2000 12:54 AM

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if you worried about water rention get your hands on some proviron, proviron is a must when using test if you dont want the extra water gain...


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Bill Smith

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posted August 22, 2000 01:07 AM

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with that cycle you will retain water no matter what!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 22, 2000 01:15 AM

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JUICESEEKER:Option #5 that you listed would be your best bet out of those choices for what your hoping to accomplish,but I would up that primo dose another 100-200mg/week for better results........


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Pharm Animal

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posted August 22, 2000 02:35 AM

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arimidex will be great, cause it prevents estrogen from ever being formed, thus no water retention, and more test/d-bol will be available because of no aromatization....arimidex destroys what aromatase is in your system

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 22, 2000 02:39 AM

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Good point P.A..If you can find it(and more importantly AFFORD it)then arimidex is THE choice for estrogen related edema.


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Retabolil2

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posted August 22, 2000 05:33 AM

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It doesn`t matter, if you are using test and d-bol you will have a water retention. Deca or primo in this stack doesn`t mean any water retention.


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Irish

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posted August 22, 2000 12:10 PM

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Try this:
D-bol 30mg
EQ 500
Primo 300
sus 250
Good mass with less h2o!


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media

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From:Belgrade, Yugoslavia
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posted August 23, 2000 08:17 AM

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Test alone will make you bloat, test+d-bol will make you even more bloated. Deca and primo got nothing to do with it, so it doesn't matter which one are you going to stack with the above. Try some Clomid 50 EOD thought the cycle, or Nolva. But if you really want to void edema then do the winny/primo or something like that.


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Maverik

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posted August 23, 2000 02:59 PM

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Krusher has got a good point. Nolvadex will knock out that water retention but doing that will also probably prevent those huge strength gains that you get from water retentive AS.

Peace...Mav


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