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Jeff_rys

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posted August 21, 2000 05:38 PM

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Looking at the calendar to know how long i have been using PGF2a, well i started on monday 22/5, so i am on it for 3 months now.
No big deal but, after a month i got tendonitis on my right achilles. Since i always have injuries somewhere, nothing to worry about. Underneath the same foot it hurts when i have to stand up for a long period, and this after taking PGF2a for 4 weeks. In the beginning i was thinking the foot did hurt from the tendonitis.
After a while i got the same in the left foot, a disconfort when standing still. Changing the injections to twice a day for 1.5 cc each time didn't change a thing. So i changed it to once a day, 2 cc's and it really gets harder on both feet. It hurts even when sitting down. Shot taken at 7 AM, disconfort gone around 2-3 PM. Now one shot a day of 1 cc and i don't feel a thing in my feet. Since friday i am back on a Primo cycle for 12 weeks starting with 200 mgr together with the PGF2a and if necessary upping the Primo to 400. Anyone knows what the feet thing could be ?

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posted August 21, 2000 05:51 PM

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dont know but ill bump bro! also heard you shouldnt juice w/it.

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Recoome

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posted August 21, 2000 05:53 PM

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I'm gonna wait a couple more years until this shit is more understood...


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The Ranger

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posted August 21, 2000 07:52 PM

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Well Jeff,
What can I say....you outlasted us all Bro!!! Haven't heard from Val...probally dead...heh heh heh....You definately get... " PAIN FREAK OF THE YEAR AWARD! " ....Hat's off to ya Bro....You Da Man!!!

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Jeff_rys

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posted August 22, 2000 02:49 AM

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thanks Ranger, but there are good sites on PGF2a as well. Lower blood pressure, no need to take something to go to the bathroom, no ball shrinking, no prostate problems.
Strange thing also is, my overall physique has improved like the legs, even if they never, have had any shots (so far).


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 22, 2000 03:05 AM

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Hey guys,I've got a question for you here.Now I know pgf causes site-specific muscle growth.Does it also seem to cause site specific fat loss?In other words,the sites you're repeatedly injecting,do they appear to be more vascular/cut up?I know pgf actually destroys fat cells in the body,but was just wondering if this effect is more powerful close to the injection sites as opposed to the entire body.Haven't heard any feedback on this particular area yet.


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Jeff_rys

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posted August 22, 2000 04:22 AM

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Yes it causes fat loss (my main objective). For muscle gains it still is better using roids. Altough the Ranger and BB Val have gained muscle size on this, more then i did. The arms although already lean, get leaner, even if you think this is not possible they will get leaner. For the abs it is too soon to say the results are great. After 3 months i feel that there is overall gain on the entire body, as if the injected sites get saturated and more of the PGF2a gets transported to other muscles. That's why i am planning on doing this for another 3 months. Since last week only 1 cc a day, but i think moving this up to 2 x 1 cc, if the hiels can take it. Your muscles get tighter, that's why in the beginning injecting the bi's seems easier than after 4 weeks.
LRG, yes normally you should not juice while on PGF2a, but it is only 200 mgr a week and it keeps me in an anabolic state all day long. So maybe this will boost the PGF2a for better result.

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wiseguy

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posted August 22, 2000 09:39 AM

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hey Jeff...what brand of PGFa are u using? do you need a prescription and how much are u paying for it?
i've used Dinolyptic one's for a couple of weeks with great (temporary) results esp. fatloss and vascularity and pump!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 22, 2000 02:18 PM

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Jeff_rys:Thanks for responding bro.I'm going to bump this for the other pros-Ranger & big bro,whats your take on my above question?


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The Ranger

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posted August 22, 2000 02:23 PM

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Huck,
Mine was pretty much whole body...though the arms and calves became extremely vascular...my calves even more so...I wouldn't even wear shorts, it was actually kinda gross...vascularity has dimished slightly, but still there when the blood gets to rock'in, and the body temp goes up....!!!!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted August 22, 2000 02:26 PM

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Awesome Ranger.I knew I could count on your input.Thank you so much bro.


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Jeff_rys

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posted August 22, 2000 04:07 PM

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Hi Wiseguy, i don't know what dynolyptic really is. I used the Lytalyse (PGF2a) from Upjohn and right now the syntetic from Sintyal (Argentina). You can buy this in the U.S.A. but you need a prescription. I tried some firms to send it to Belgium, but even with a prescription they are not allowed to export it to individuals outside the States.

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Jae

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posted August 22, 2000 04:17 PM

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HEY!!!! I am looking for info on PGF2. I posted a note myself, but I tried the search engine here and the one on Yahoo! and I couldn't find shit.

Ranger hit me up on the 411.
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Would love to know about it.


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CLEMDOG

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posted August 22, 2000 04:29 PM

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What type of medical condition would PGF2 be used for in the medical community?


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Jeff_rys

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posted August 22, 2000 04:39 PM

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The vet stuff is used for bringing cows into heat, but it is also used in the medical world for women (in very small doses). There are different kinds of PGF2, like a and e.
For muscle growth you need the PGF2a. It is also used for injection in the penis (no thank you, not for me).

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wiseguy

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posted August 23, 2000 04:41 AM

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hey Jeff...now i have some suberb news for you! dinolyptic is exactly the same as lutalyse!!! it's the name Upjohn uses in Belgium for this shit! i got it directly from my pharmacist (who doesn't need any prescriptions for vet-products)...it are 5 small (10ml) bottles for 2000BEF...the box and the bottles are exactly the same as Lutalyse, even the colours, only a diff. name in Belgium.
hope this helps!

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Jeff_rys

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posted August 23, 2000 04:58 AM

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I pay $55 for 10 amps of 5 cc. So you get a better price.


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wiseguy

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posted August 23, 2000 08:48 AM

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well, then it's worth asking your pharmacist if he can get it...because if you get a 10% discount you will have 50ml for 42$ instead of 55$!!! and with the amounts you're using it makes a lot of difference!
hope it works out!
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Jeff_rys

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posted August 23, 2000 03:51 PM

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Thanks Wiseguy, i will give it a try.

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since i'm new here, just let me know if this is not the type of question i should be asking (still trying to get a handle on this). how did you get pgfa from your pharmacist without a prescription? did you come up with some line that the pharmacist thought was reasonable? 2nd question: i read that there are 4 injection sites for your bicep. how do you know where the injection sites are located, or can you just inject anywhere (& just pray you dont hit a nerve).


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wiseguy

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posted August 24, 2000 04:35 AM

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no...my pharmacist knows exactly what i'm doing with the stuff...hehehe! but, because it's a vetenarian product he can get away with giving it without a prescription (at least here in Belgium) so if i were you, i would give it a try: the active ingredient is diniprost.
the more muscular you are, the easier it is to find all the injectionspots...you can check a card to make sure were you've to inject.
always respirate (that means pull back on the plunger) to see if there's any blood in the syringe.if there is :don't inject! try another place!
maybe Jeff has some more info, because he's the f--king expert!!! hehehe!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Wiseguy:Thank you for your input on this bro.JEFF_RYS-Any tips you could give on specific areas that are o.k. to inject on biceps,triceps,delts,etc.?


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Jeff_rys

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posted August 24, 2000 06:04 PM

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Huckleberry, rear delts and side delts are easy (well in a mather of speaking) to inject. Front delts hurt more. Tri's easier then bi's. The first weeks the bi's are not to difficult, but the longer you go the harder it gets (for the bi's). You come to a point you don't want to inject them anymore. Lower back and lower site ok, but chest less easy. Abs, difficult to inject because after that you get the impression they are torn, you can easely injure them training heavely since whatever muscle group you train the abs get a part of the stress. Forearms i did 4 or 5 times each, don't like to do them anymore. Tomorrow or the day after i will start with the quads. Calves i don't know yet. The fat goes away, especially on the arms and delts, but for me not much size gains. Although i can only speak for myself.
Try using a 30 gauge since you will do many injections. For the moment i am back, after 6 days of one shot, at 2x1 cc, hoping my hiels will not hurt again. Whenever i stop or something new comes up, i will post it.


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posted August 24, 2000 06:54 PM

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Dutch regulations for this vet stuff is very tight.. lets see if they sell this stuff to the "ollanders.. ?

Dutch

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jeff,

are you serious about the injection of the penis thing? on all my research on pgf2a i've never heard of it being injected in the penis for humans... i hope your talking about animals

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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JEFF_RYS:Just wanted to take a moment to personally thank you for all your input here.I'm going to be taking the PGF plunge in the future,so I'm trying to gather all the info on it I can,and it sure helps to hear all you bros real life experiences with it.Thanks again bro.


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