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Cool Novice 
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i am doing a 6 week cycle of winny and i was just wonderig if i should do an eca stack afterwards or start creatine instead, i will eventually do both but i was wondering what i should do first and for how long, thanks     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 467 |
winie by it self is useles unles u doing t-3 so u can use as a anti catabolic | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
Ripped is WRONG ! winstrol by itself is not useless. It is a very good as. Now what are you trying to do ?? Cut some fat or gain some mass. ?? Dutch ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 467 |
ok dutsh in order for winie to be efective by it self you have to du like 100 mg a day unless u are using t-3 small doses arnt beneficial at all, it is a stacking as | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 663 |
You seem confused Rich. First, Winstrol by itself is effective, it need not be combined with thyroid drugs or other forms of AS. Second, since your interested in using it to reduce bodyfat while preserving muscle mass use it in conjunction with a thermogenic. Thirdly, there is no conceivable reason behind the use of creatine in conjunction with Winstrol or post use. ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 445 |
I disagree with ripped..... I've had good results with 50mgs ED of winny by itself. D. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
Ripped ???? All i need is 50 mg eod. Gains are modest but you keep them and NO sides.. it's my favorite AS. You might not react very well on it, but that does not mean it is a useless AS ! Now if he wants to cut up, he should use 50 mg eod and some clenbuterol. That should be enough. If he wants to gain mass than 50 mg ed will do. You can stack it with other AS for better results. Dutch [This message has been edited by Dutch (edited August 21, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 860 |
ripped, i don't know where you got that info but i'm doing 50mg eod and i'm doing fine. yes it won't put on a shitload of mass for you but it is not worthless. it helps in vascularity, endurance, and strength gains. if the man is trying to cut then winny only should be sufficient, only throw in the eca if your not trying to put on any muscle mass. ------------------ "The greatest risk is not taking one." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 663 |
Ripped to shreds is a newbie, learning the basics. Don't bite his head off, he just need become more learned on these issues. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
i am a pitcher and i am doing winny for the strength gains without the bulk. i have done it before by itself and loved the results, but i figure since i am doing a "cutting drug" then i might as well get cut too. but my main objective is strength. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 716 |
But what is wrong with shooting 100 mgr EOD ? You save a needle, a syringe, a shot. And there are sides. Your liver gets a hard time, only you don't see this. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1111 |
Do you pitch in the MLB? One thing you may want to do is throw in a little deca...Some bros experience joint pain when on winny...A bodybuilder I know tore his rotator cuff when on a winny only cycle...Don't think that this kind of thing happens to everyone, but just be careful, especially if your career depends on your joints. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1508 |
hmm Deca? That will be in the system a while - if you dont think your going to get tested maybe but for strength why not Anavar - easy enough to administer, a little expensive though. Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1111 |
Damn Slopain...You are just full of ideas I failed to think of today... Good back up bro. Like Pinnochio and his conscience Jiminy Cricket | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
slopain is always on point! im@LRG | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
i know deca is great for pitchers and i could only imagine what deca and winny together would do for my velocity, the problem is the drug test though. i will be tested within the next year and a half so the deca is out of the question til then. the reason i asked about the ECA and or creatine is b/c i have seen boosts in strength and energy while using them, and when i come off the winny i am still going to be pitching and dont want a loss in energy. To tell u the truth i have no knowledge of anavar and will have to research it before i start asking stupid questions about it. thanks for the help. oh and i am taking the powder form of winny oraly 50mg ed. do you think i should do it longer than 6 weeks, maybee 8 or how about two 6 week cycles with a couple months in between? thanks alot for the help guys. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 542 |
Just wanted to say whats up to my man richie rich whos gonna be drafted this year or next gaurenteed.. just let me know what else you need richie.. and ill hook u up.. stay strong.. and make sure you keep coming back so we can go get wasted at exit.. and im definately coming up alot this year.. have a nice little hoar waiting for me.. ok im going to sleep for two hours ill see you at mulcs tonight.. later.. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 467 |
ill say it once again, for the reason of him thinking that winstrol will do a shit load for him is not tru, winstrol is one of my favorite steroids too, i took it my self as one of my first cycles for 5 weeks at about 300 mg a week, gaind only 5 pounds but that wasnt my goal at the time, why to take it alone ?? if he can get winie there shouldnt be a problem for him to get other things, well unles hes a sprinter there will not be a high benefit of him doing it alone, i said there is a BIG benefit to doing it alone if you are trayng to cut up and are using thyroid and use the winie for anticatabolism, iam a newbie yes iam do i know ewerithing no, do you know ewerything no, theres thing i know that you dont, [This message has been edited by ripped to shreads2 (edited August 22, 2000).] [This message has been edited by ripped to shreads2 (edited August 22, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
Ripped, the thing is i am a pitcher. in a way pitching is much like sprinting b/c of the explosiveness. pitchers cant get bulky and loose flexibility just like a sprinter has to stay lean and flexible. i would be satisfied with a little more than 5 pounds of muscle b/c it wont come on to quick and i wont loose my gains quick either. For some reason winny takes to my body really well and the first (and only other) time i did it my strength gains were incredible. I know i am not going to see humungous gains in size and strength or even leanness, but people take steroids for different reasons and i am not looking to gain muscle the way you probably are. thanks man, later | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 467 |
then there will be a lot that you can benefit from, sorry i should of read your post better, but since winstrol works ewen better when stacked, that was the point i was traing to bring across.well good luck lates | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Richie, you definetely have your head on straight about not bulking up for pitching. I have and continue to play in a semi-pro league since college. I was a pitcher up until the last two years, I just got two big to pitch effectively anymore. When I first joined the league I weighed 200lbs. now I'm 265, I have a tough time throwing over from third base now. Of course I didn't do enough to maintain my flexibility, but at this point I realize I'm never going to get paid more than a couple of free beers after the game, so I figured wtf I'm going to stay big. I hope they have you on a weight program for pitching, if they don't drop me a line.. Best of luck to you, I have a buddy who made it to the "show", let me tell you it is worth all of the work he put into it.. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
yo guys thanks for all the help. i have learned more about this stuff by reading the board than in any book or anything. i had never planned on doing any steroids before but there comes a time when you realize you have a chance to be the best with a little extra push, ya know. the thing that sux about sports these days is that your not at an advantage if your doing roids, your at a disadvantage if your not doing it. thanks again. later | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
You will get great results with winny by its self | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
thanks again for the help everyone. i am heading back to school today and will start pitching again in 1 week. i will post my results in a few weeks. but i might have some questions for my friends who are getting into this scene as well. i appreciate all the help. later, and good luck to everyone out there. |
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posted August 21, 2000 04:33 PM
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