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TPH

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posted August 21, 2000 10:15 AM

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I've gotten some great advice from some experienced Bros saying there is no need to taper Dball. But now I've read a couple of posts and it seems that other Bros say to taper.

Just trying to understand- whats the consensus?


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BigTruck

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posted August 21, 2000 10:36 AM

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I don't think there is a consensus, some like to taper, some don't.


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Krusher

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posted August 21, 2000 10:48 AM

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As BigTruck stated, there is no consesus. Some other factors must also be considered, such as the dose and which drugs are still being used after the d-bol is stopped. Usually, the sust has just kicked in right when one goes off the d-bol so there would be little need to taper from a reasonable dose.


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DYLAN

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posted August 21, 2000 10:55 AM

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I would always taper off dbol.
D.


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Fonz

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posted August 21, 2000 11:44 AM

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Read this:

Ok people I thought about this issue for a while, since it was bugging the crapp out of me. I will give you what I think constitutes a hard truth.
Example: Bodybuilder 1: 1000mg of test for 5 weeks
Bodybuilder 2: (200,600,1000,600,200)mg(taper)
For simplicities sake let's say that the half-life of the test is 7 days. So after one week on test 50% of the test is gone from the system.
W1
START END
BB1: 1000mg 500mg
BB2: 200mg 100mg

W2
START END
BB1: 1500mg 750mg
BB2: 700mg 350mg

W3
START END
BB1: 1750mg 875mg
BB2: 1350mg 675mg

W4
START END
BB1: 1875mg 937.5mg
BB2: 1275mg 637.5mg

W4
START END
BB1: 1937.5mg 968.75mg
BB2: 837.5mg 418.75mg
So, at the end of the 5 weeks BB1 has a total of 968.75mg of active test in his system, while BB2 has 418.75mg of active test.

Now, for recovery
START W1 W2 W3
BB1: 968.75 434.375 217.1875 108.59375
BB2: 418.75 209.375 108.59375 Recovery begins

So, mathematically speaking bodybuilder 1 will take 3 weeks after his cycle starts to clear test to acceptable levels, so that natural test can recover.
Bodybuilder 2 will take only 2 weeks to have the test clear his system.

So, for all you supporters of the taper theory, please bear in mind that BB1 took 5000mg of active steroid Vs. only 2600mg for BB2. The rationale here is that BB1 will not lose all the added mas gained in just the last week of exogeneous test clearance. Therefore in this case, taper theory is not very good.

Substitute the test's 7-day half-life for d-balls 3.2-4.5 hours. I posted this on x-man's board already.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 21, 2000 12:11 PM

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The tapering of d-ball has nothing to do with receptor downgrad as much as ethetics with respect to the user controling the amount of water loss as doses lesson or cease entirely. As you know the 17-aa, greatest benefit is the "BLOAT" there's your strength increase. By not tapering the d-ball the user is gonna drop that excess water FAST. Taper the d-ball gradually so as to minimize noticable drastic decreases in water retention.
Any more questions?

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the full bull

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posted August 21, 2000 12:15 PM

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you dont need to taper the dbol if your on any kind of test.if your not then yes ,taper the dbol.


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Fonz

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posted August 23, 2000 07:39 AM

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Sarcasm, Sarcasm


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Haze

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posted August 23, 2000 07:42 AM

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Just use another mild roid like Primo or EQ to help keep some gain at the end of a cycle, but do taper off with low dose of other roids (mild anabolics).


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