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Big Wiggs

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Posts: 33
From:Stuttgart, Germany
Registered: Aug 2000

posted August 20, 2000 12:38 PM

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Hey folks this is mainly for the newbies it is a list of all the cycles I've done with the nutrition and mistakes that I think I've made in the past 2 years my next cycle is posted at the bottom. Feel free to look its kind of long though.


1st cycle

200mg of Deca for 8 weeks
200mg of Primobolan Depot for 8 weeks
Clomid
Nolvadex
HCG

This is how the cycle ended up going. I started out at 200lbs at a height of 5�8 at 8-10% Body fat at the age of 19. During this cycle I ate about 200-250g of protein per day and probably about 300g of carbs but the fat stayed low. Workouts were kept intense. I had been studying steroids for about 2 years my buddy gave me a copy of the World Anabolic Review and the Anabolic Reference Guide, which in my opinion is a must to read for anyone before you start juicing. I know some of the stuff is outdated but a majority of it is still true.
The reason I held off for those two years was because I kept hearing that you should wait until you went as far as you could naturally and then evaluate what you were going to do next. So in my opinion I thought I went as far as I was going to go naturally, I had been lifting since 15 and taken everything but roids. I had a 340 lb bench and 500 lb squat not bad for 19 and natural! I measured 33 inch waist, 16.5 inch arms and 17 inch calves.

Things done wrong

I didn�t know back then if I needed the Clomid or not so if I remember correctly I probably took it for about a week and a half at 50mg a day.

I took Nolvadex for 4 days and then quit don�t ask me why? I didn�t even need it.

I should have eaten more at least 300 grams of protein minimum and I could have upped the carbs also. All I basically ate was chicken and rice and protein shakes, and I wasn�t even doing a contest.

I took 1 shot of 2.500iu of HCG. I think it was useless.

Change the workout routine the body gets used to it and then you don�t grow like your supposed to.

Conlusions

In the end I gained 8 lbs of which all of it I kept. I could have gained much more if I would have consumed more protein and carbs but this was in my, believe everything that Flex magazine says about nutrition days. I also needed to learn more about using the anti-estrogens before I used them. For the first time since I had start working out I quit working out and forgot the nutrition after the cycle. BIG MISTAKE!!!! This is an important time to keep it up. Unless of course you don�t want to keep your gains.

2nd Cycle

250mg of Sustanon for 8 weeks
200mg of Primobolan Depot for 8 weeks
Clomid


Well back then to me this would have been considered a mass cycle. My weight was hovering around 208-210 at about 10% body fat. I basically ate the same way I did on the last cycle but a little bit sloppier which caused noticeable water retention even at just 250mg a week!

Things done wrong

Once again I needed to consume more protein and carbs.
Another think folks if you�re not doing a contest then don�t eat like you�re doing a contest! It just makes it harder on you when you do in my opinion. During this cycle I also used Clenbuterol for the first time. I used it for two days, 1 pill the first and two the second. The next day I woke up with the worst headache I ever had in my life!! I knew this was one of the side effects but this was much worst than I thought. I immediately stopped the Clen and the next day I was better. I believe I only used Clomid for 1 week I should have used it longer because I started feeling an itching sensation around my nipples.

Conclusions

I think I put on 10 lbs from this cycle and 5 of which I kept. Again I quit working out for about 2-3 months after the cycle but I really didn�t lose anything.


I got married and went on an 8 month lay off. I didn�t touch a weight or a roid for 8 months. I blew up to 236lbs at around 20% body fat. I decided to do my first contest and here is what the next cycle consisted of�.

3rd Cycle

400mg Deca for 10 weeks
152mg of Parabolin for 8 weeks
50mg of Winny EOD (Every other Day) for 8weeks
T-3
Clen


Like I said I started out at 20% Bodyfat at 236 lbs and wanted to do a contest on 3 months. I had a lot of work to do. Here are the results� I dropped down to 212 at about 10% Body fat. I had the chicken and rice thing going but this time I was doing a contest. I did lots of cardio and tried my best to keep the diet as clean as possible. In the end I knew I wasn�t ready for the contest but decided to do it anyway to teach my self a lesson and I also invested to much time and money into it to let it just go by. I go 3rd in the heavyweight class out of 3�. Live and learn.


Things that went wrong

I definatly started out with my body fat too high. I�ll never do that again, I got comfortable with the good life and let it get the best of me. It happens to the best of us. The important thing is I bounced back. I think I used the Deca to much and should have used the Parabolan and Winny more. I was missing shots with the winny cause I was to lazy. Something that went right for a change was that unlike last time this time with the Clen I experienced no headaches just the usual sweating and shaking for a couple days. Same with the T-3 made sure I read everything on that one I started low at 25mcg a day went up to 75mcg and went back down to 25mcg and stayed on it for 5 weeks. I should have stayed on the Clen longer though. I did a 1 week on 1 week of for 6 weeks and then stopped because I ran out. Lesson learned, PLAN AHEAD.

No Conclusions

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4th cycle

1000mg of Testoviron Depot for 8 weeks
400mg of Deca for 8 weeks
30mg of D-bol for 6 weeks
T-3
Clen
Clomid
HCG
Nolvadex (maybe)
Milk Thistle

A lot of money, mistakes and two years later, I�m sitting at 21 yrs old 5�8 220 lbs at 12% body fat. I�m ready to do a real mass cycle and I have learned from all my old mistakes.
This time around I will keep protein as high as possible around 400g and about 400g of carbs. With this I should easily bulk up to 250 possibly 260. I�ll continue the nutrition and working out after the cycle. I will post before and after pictures. I�ll keep you posted on how it goes.



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Asian Muscle Machine

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted August 20, 2000 12:50 PM

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I learned a lot from your post.
Thax.

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Big Wiggs

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posted August 20, 2000 01:06 PM

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I'm bumping this one up for the newbies.


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DREXX

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posted August 20, 2000 01:12 PM

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Good post!

I like reading personal experiences its cool!

Anyone else want to share there experiences???


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Badkins21

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:College Station, TX--USA
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posted August 20, 2000 01:53 PM

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Hey man, that's one of the best posts I've read. If you've read any of my other posts, you know I'm in about the EXACT same position as you were...19, been bodybuilding for about 2 years, entered 3 shows, gotten better everytime, take lots of supplements, learning more and more every day about diet/supplementation, and now the juice. I'm considering doing either an aratest/deca cycle or an aratest/eq cycle, maybe with some dbol after this Christmas. I know I'll have the clomid to take throughout, and I'll have me some nolvadex on hand in case. I'll drop lots of the natural stuff, just vitamins, minerals, some milk thistle, primrose oil, and saw palmetto...let me know what you think...drop me an e-mail if you can!

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Maverik

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posted August 20, 2000 03:59 PM

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Very good post! Nice of you to take the time to do all that just so people can learn. Thanks.

Peace...Mav


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Big Wiggs

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posted August 21, 2000 02:03 AM

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Bumping this one for the Newbies.


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media

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posted August 21, 2000 09:41 AM

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BUMP, my friend. Very, very good post.
Later...


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Ice Man

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posted August 21, 2000 09:54 AM

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Nice post, Bro. Welcome to the board!


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MP5

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posted August 21, 2000 11:07 AM

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bump, nice post


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posted August 22, 2000 07:18 AM

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I'll BUMP it again!


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