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 Clen mechanism by which it works?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Okay, I know it works during a cutting cycle, by raising metabolism, temp a little, but what is the exact mechanism by which it helps retain gains at end of cycle? chesty ------------------     | ||
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Moderator 
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Chesty, Clen is classified as a Beta-2-Symphatomimetic....simply put....it has very good anti-catabolic effects..... Ephedrine is similar, though not as powerful, and has some anti-catabolic effects as well and is classified in the same group of Sympathomimetics(Generally found in medicine fo Asthma user's)...Peace!! ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I will bump this for you. I would like to know the answer to this also. I was thinking of using some clen after my cycle is over. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I am of the opinion that those who believe that the use of clenbuterol post cycle as a means to solidify newly acquired gains via anabolism are being misguided. Any anabolic conclusions drawn from the use of Clenbuterol were derived from the administration of this product in cattle, who have an abundance of Beta-2/3 receptors. Compounds that upregulate beta-3 adrenergic receptors, which are specific to adipose cells, cause a 10-30% increase in metabolic rate. The realization of adipos tissue is the ultimate end realized by its users. Using this product for any other purpose would be a waste. Without going into gross mind dumbing detail, I hope this helped.
[This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited August 19, 2000).]  | ||
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Moderator
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There are scores of experiments that show mice in HLS have considerably less wasting when clen is introducted. And they are not cattle. ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Ok boys and girls what is that translated into simpleton english (marine jargon) If it is anti-catabolic in cattle, why wouldn't it have similar effects in humans. Even if we have a difference (sp) in beta 2/3 recptors. I will be the guinne (sp) pig since I am starting clen today as post cycle cycling it with Xenadrine. We will see what gains remain at the end of eight weeks. chesty ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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Khule Chesty....Go fer it Bro!!! Damn Twisted S......" You blinded me with Science..." Heh heh heh....Khule as Well I might add...!!! ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Im sure you pretty much got the jist of it all Chest, Clen is anti-catabolic, how? By supressing cortisol levels? No, it doesnt do this. Use it to increase resting metabolism. Nothing more Doses exceeding 120mcg are genrally considered overkill, humans simply lack sufficient receptor sights for this product. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited August 19, 2000).] | ||
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Moderator
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Twisted, How do you expain the research on mice? ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Moderator
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Also it reduces the rate at which protein is broken down in the muscle cell and not necessarily suppresses cortizone levels. I think your research is outdated. I will go through some files and find you some updated research. ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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http://journals.endocrinology.org/ My uncle doesn't subscribe to Sports Illustrated, what can I say! ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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Clen is not a hormone compound, so it may not be the main focus in the area of endocrinology. I would imagine the American Journal of Physiology would be a better resource. ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Keep this one at the top, it is interesting as well as beneficial. chesty ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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How I do luv these professional debates without the flames.....this is Khule!!!!!! ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Clen is mostly a beta-2 agonist, which causes an increase in thermogenesis by increasing cAMP levels in its target cells. In adipocytes, this causes a release of free fatty acid from the cell, which is then used by other cells (muscle) for energy. When free fatty acids increase in the blood, there is a decrease in insulin sensitivity. This decrease is anti-catabolic since it is protective against catabolism of muscle tissue for energy. |
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posted August 19, 2000 05:50 PM