The drug policies of the US have always been the product of hysteria and politics. Alcohol kills many thousands a year directly or indirectly, but it is legal and socially condoned. Tobacco has no real benefit, is known to cause death with extended use, and remains legal.

But it is steroids which draws all the attention despite not being deadly even when horribly abused.

We did outlaw alcohol once. There was such an uproar and crime wave to provide it to those who wanted it, that the states finally repealled that constitutional amendment.

We should form a lobby and get the rulings reversed on steroids.

chesty

As for the tobacco and alcohol lobbies, that is my point exactly. Our drug policies have no basis in science or fact. Rather, they are based on the politics of money and national hysteria.

The power of hysteria is strong. Consider the Firestone tire recall. A grand total of about 50 people have died -- about the same number that drown in backyard pool accidents every year. Yet people are rushing madly to change those tires...

All I wanna here is, WHY are anabolic steroids illeagal? Are they trying to protect us? If this is the case, either ban alcohol & smokes or make steroids legal & let the people make the decision if they wanna juice or not!

Republican and Democratic Senator's were asked the same question about Hillary Clinton's medical bill that was introduced into congress.

It went something like this: To the Republican, why don't you like this bill?

Response, "It removes individual freedoms to make choices, we feel the elderly American people should be able to chose the doctor they see, wether or not they use generic or name brand medicine, they should not have to be told what to do, who to see and how much they can spend".

The counter by the Democratic Senator was something like this: "We need (gov) to make those choices for them. They cannot be trusted to make the right decisions, they need us to tell them what to do."

In a nutshell this Senator told the whole damn country what the govt's role is in our personal lives. We cannot be trusted, we must be told what to do and watched closely to prevent us from stepping over the lines.

When the govt no longer trusts its citizens, the citizens can no longer trust the govt.

I love this country and will die for it and her people at will, commanded or not. But there comes a point when your faith in your beliefs is challenged.
chesty

but honestly the media is the key, educate
the media and the Gov. always follows.

Now about that crack...hahaha.

Americans tend to look the other way on most shit, but when you involve someones kids, who are not mature enough to make the big decisions, that's where the politics come into play.

Maybe, if AS hadn't been so readily available to high school kids we wouldn't have the current problem that we do with them.

Just a thought.

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Originally posted by chestyII:
The counter by the Democratic Senator was something like this: "We need (gov) to make those choices for them. They cannot be trusted to make the right decisions, they need us to tell them what to do."

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this is very scary for me, as it should be for all of you! this thinking in the government is exactly what will turn this country into a socialist one...i'm shitting my pants

"It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error."

I like the thread you started, bro. IMO, though, there's far less hysteria, or even concern, about gear than you think, or than some of the bros who've posted to your thread think. I'm pretty sure the feds could care less about most gear use. You start dealing, start flouting the laws in an egregious way then, sure, you get the Man's notice. But, you keep it lowkey, personal use, all that jazz ... I doubt very much if the DEA, the FBI or anybody else gives a shit.

All this paranoia by some of the bros is just a way that they blow up their own importance. Makes 'em feel bad ass, like some kind of renegade or something. The Man doesn't see it that way, doesn't care much about purely personal use of most drugs, for that matter, much less AS, which has no criminal underground, no national security issues, no morbid addiction profile, etc.. Plus, everyone knows that an awful lot of cops themselves use gear. The Man's not going to poison that well!

Just keep it cool, bros, stop all the paranoid fantasies, and you'll be alright. My $.02.

Bjaarki

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"'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten,
high under Heaven, the hero's name." - Hrolf Krakki's Saga (Iceland)

just my 2 cents
peace

plus if it was legal u know the price would b so crazy!!! look at andro products, and that stuff doesn't work 1/4 as well.

here's some thing to ponder. how the hell do people think it's not as rampid in sports as it most obviously is. case in point...the nba. have u seen the size of these mothfuckers. my god!! huge vascular musclemen running and and down a court. the last time i checked cardio doesn't put 2 inches on yout arms, make u thicker meaner and more aggresive on the court. take a player from 20 10 years ago and one from today, maybe i'm wrong. maybe GATORADE is some serious shit?

i don't use the "tools" but i find it interesting as hell and i come in here to learn the most i can so i have all the info when the time comes.

thanks bro. u made me think.