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Cool Novice 
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The good kind of newbie.... I have read the newbie post, I have been lurking and reading for 2 months, I have and continue to use the search engine, I am 32 not 17, I have been lifting seriously for 12 years, I already have a source, I have the gear in hand, and I have just begun my first cycle with some email help from 2Thick. Now that the torches are put away, I hope... I should probably be the poster boy for the leagization of AS for physique improvement. I have most certainly utilized 95% of my genetic potential, such as it is. I have very small bones (e.g., light skeleton), am short 5' 8" becuase I have scoliosis,and have still managed to achieve a respectable 185 solid pounds. However, checking my workout logs for the last 2 years, I find I have made minimal improvements despite variations in diet, routine, and intensity. I have periodized volume and intensity over the years as well. Since I am all tapped out and not quite where I want to be, I have decided to get some chemical help. My goal is 190-195 lean. So, I hope to gain something like 20 pounds on my cycle and diet off about 5-10 pounds of fat after that. I am doing an 8 week cycle of sust/primo with clomid eod and nolv in hand should it become necessary. Finally, I would like to thank everyone who contributes, especially the mods, to this information source. I would not have been as well informed with your help. Intensity     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 899 |
Welcome to the board bro. I did it like you did. I read for probably 2 months before I ever posted. Hell I learned more in that 2 months of reading this board than I did in a year of research. This is a great board and it is always good to see a newbie with a good head on their shoulders. Why don't you post that cycle and let us check it out? Peace...Mav | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 233 |
Good luck on your cycle bro. For the gains your looking for go with 500mg of Sust week for 6 weeks and 300mg of Primo for 8 weeks. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Thanks for the comments. Here is my cycle: Week Sust Primo Clomid The idea is to have the test clear the system while primo is still present to maintain the gains. I wanted to keep the sust a bit low to avoid sides, but I might be willing to push it to 500 for 6 weeks if the consensus is that it is necessary. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 138 |
great intro, intensity! stay true to the attitude you came across with, and you'll be another one of the bros really soon....and hopefully you'll have things to contribute to this board as well  ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 899 |
Nice first cycle. It is obvious 2Thick has been at work on this one. 2Thick is extremely knowledgeable and knows how to plan very safe and effective cycles. However, I do have one change I would like to add. Just advice, you can do what you want. You said that you are trying to keep the primo in your system while the test clears. Well, sust can be in your system for up to 4 weeks so if it was me I would continue the primo for one more week, if not two more, at 400 mg. Other than that it looks great. Let us know how it goes. Peace...Mav | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 223 |
great intro, you heard it here frist folks, I'm predicting that this guy never gets flamed, unless someone flames him on this thread to prove me wrong ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Thanks for input guys... As it happens, I have 27 vials of primo so I could do the last weeks 400, 400, 300 to get your suggested extra week of primo. Another possibility is if I decide to get a bit more sust, I can simply purchase another week or two worth of primo. The advantage of waiting until you are older to start AS is that money is not the bottleneck. This should be an interesting experiment. I have long suspected (really should get it tested) that my test levels are on the low end, so I expect to have a strong reaction. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1525 |
Great Post Bro....Out-Fucking-Standing...!!! Glad to have ya here....Welcome!!! Just one question....Are you sure 2Thick gave you advice on that cycle??? I don't see any Deca, and the Sus dosages are way too high!!! Borderline Captain-Insane-O Cycle!!!
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Thanks for the welcome, Ranger. 2Thick was very helpful with the feedback, but I told him up front I was doing a sust/primo cycle and he suggested some amounts and timing. Believe it or not, he actually suggested sust at 500 a week straight through... Wonders never cease. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 878 |
Welcome bro glad to habe you aboard!!! Nice post too!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 605 |
very happy to hear you have read the newbie posts, stick around and get to know some people, and welcome bro!! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1525 |
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh....But there is hope for 2Thick yet...I can see he is coming around...now, if I can convince him to do trap injections with PGF2A....heh heh heh...Who knows????? ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 126 |
Welcome Bro your in good hands with 2Thick ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 331 |
nice intro bro, some guys can already learn from you. it's good to have someone with respect and maturity on board. i personally do not know the man but from what i hear you are in good hands with e2, as you would be with all the mods. there are some really good peeps here and you'll know right away who they are. and mav is right go a little longer with the primo. good luck ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 661 |
I can't belive 2Thick put a newbie on a Test cycle. Great intro and welcome to the board, Brother! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
It's great to have a forum for this stuff -- very glad I stumbled onto you guys. I know a lot of people are of the opinion that <500 mg of sust a week, even for a first cycle, is insufficient. I intend to use a fair amount of primo, but are there any voices for me raising the sust to 500mg /week for 6 weeks? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1525 |
Ranger says 750mg's first 3 weeks, 500mg's thereafter until end of cycle....eat a few dbol weeks 1 through 4....Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....Can ya smell it??? Can ya smell it??.......It's the smell of a big muther fucker bursting onto the scene.....heh heh heh....sometimes I do get carried away a bit........Peace!!! ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 3754 |
Ranger's a smart laddie heh heh!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
And he don't fuck around to boot, do like he says bro, you will surely grow that way ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
OK, a compromise. I will up the test to 500 mg/week but I'd rather save the Dbol for the next cycle. Especially given that I've already started and don't have any on hand... Thanks for the feedback. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
In my opinion if your so worried about the TEST clearing your system I would swith to TEST prop and primo. That's just me though. Oh yeah Welcome my friend. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 3686 |
I have always believed that I will not force someone to change their cycle (unless it is dangerous). It is their body, money, effort...etc. Your cycle will be great as you had it. You have many many cycles ahead of you, so why rush into the heavy dosages? Ranger, You are a bumb!! ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
Just gotta say, this is probably the best thread I've read on this board. I try to read as mush as I have time for, and all these posts exemplify what's great about the EF crew--glad to be a part of it now! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
2Thick -- Is it reasonable to expect that my cycle as originally presented will result in 20 pounds of mass gain (not counting the water weight. If not, am I better served maximizing my first cycle or simply doing another cycle in a few months to complete the journey? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 899 |
Asking that question always starts a big debate. Just warning you! Peace...Mav | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 398 |
I got to say this is probably the best newbie post I've read here yet!!! He's done eveything right from getting all his gear up front to consulting a Mod for detailed help. This should be saved and posted as an example on the newbie post as to how they should conduct themselves!!!! I'm mean re-read that first paragraph again, 32yrs old and just starting AS, has a source already so he wont be asking on every thread, has all his gear in hand, been lifting for 12 YEARS (not months) naturally, and most important HE USES THE SEARCH FUNCTION!!!!! Welcome to the board Bro, and I mean it this time, lol!!! Oh, and if you haven't figured out the players yet let me help: 1. Ranger- our own version of the prisoner with privlages!!!!! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1525 |
Oh cum on 2Thick....he did ask....now didn't he??? Heh heh heh..............You'll do fine Bro...you have your head on straight, and know what you want out of your cycle....and yes, there are many more to come!!! Eat and grow bro!!!!! ------------------ Ranger | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 899 |
Come on guys what are you trying to do here. Kill the guy by making his ego explode? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Maverik -- No doubt -- all the praise is a ruse to see if I will feel secure and show my true colors by asking what nolvadex is and will it stop gyno? Or, will squats make my legs bigger? BTW, in response to your comment on starting another debate, I wonder which is better: Hit the first cycle hard to maximize gains because the receptors are virgin, or go a bit lighter, have less impact on the receptors, and get better results averaged over a few cycles. For me, I think a moderate first cycle is a good compromise. Get most of the benefits of the first cycle while guaging the effects on my body. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Yoda-- Thanks for the kind words and the cast of characters. I remember the late 80's/ early 90's when the internet was just getting started in its present form. Everyone was polite, well informed, and commmunication was enjoyable. Then along came AOL and every moron and his brother showed up with an opinion based on their 30 seconds of experience in something or another. Every since then I have made it my internet posting policy to shut up until I have something to contribute. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 899 |
Intensity: I was just fuckin with ya'. I always give credit where credit is due and this is a good post I have to admit. As far as which is best: hitting it hard at first or taking it easy. For me I wanted my first real cycle to go off with a bang so I hit mine hard. However, the safer way to do it is to start out low and work your way up. This way you know how you respond. Do a search on this and you will see what I mean about a big debate. Everybody has a different opinion on how you should do your first cycle. Peace...Mav | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
Welcome aboard Bro. This board is great. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 899 |
I think doing a moderate first cycle is a good compromise. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress. Peace...Mav | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 26 |
Welcome to the board i have been reading as well i'll be quite for now and read on for now. one question any body have a good routine method on bulking?------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 428 |
Welcome bro, good to see a newbie with a good head on his shoulders. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Wow...this is a cool post....I'm a newbie also.....kinda.....I've been reading and researching for three months for my first cycle. I want to do a sust./primo cycle. I thought about doing sust at 250 every five days for eight weeks and then add primo at week four at 200 mg a week for seven weeks so I can solidify my gains.....I don't know just thinking about it. Got a while before I start my first cycle....who knows I might just do intensity's cycle. Later bros |
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posted August 19, 2000 04:03 PM