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MONSTROSITY

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posted August 19, 2000 10:54 AM

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I have watched many brothers fall out because of burnout and fear for their own lives. I have learned a magnitude of ideals from the aforementioned. All valuable in my mind. I have seen many close friends get burned out regardless of their sport(bodybuilding/strongman/powerlifting). All these athlets had the same thing in common they wanted to get to the top, nothing was going to get in their way. This type of single mindedness builds true champions, legends and Olympians. My uncle was an Olympian and held the world record in the Javelin for 4 years, I have leraned much from him.

I also know of many great athletes who never did suffer from burnout and enjoyed competing well into their 50's sometimes even 60's. All these athletes had one thing in common, they never forgot what makes a great athlete; "Hard work." They knew that if they were going to reach greatness it wasn't going to come overnight and not without gut-wrenching training. From them I have learned that pateince and hard work will yield greatness.

The athletes who suffer the shortest careers are usually the one's who try to reach the top the fastest, in doing so they use every possible weapon. These same athletes start to put too much emphasis on AS in an attempt to race to the top. Here is a common example:

Dave is a competitive bodybuilder, in his second show he weighs in at 220 w/5% bodyfat he places 3rd. Dave evaluates his performance and regroups he decides in order for him to get to 235 at 5% he will need to make many changes. Far too often these changes are an increase in the amonut of drugs used and sometimes more drugs are added to the stack. This is were burnout starts, the athlete has placed far too much emphasis on the drugs. These athletes usually lack the patience that is needed to build a phsyique without constantly upping the dosages.

If your dosages constantly increase, it likely that burnout will become a reality.

I use AS as a tool to help me attain certain individual goals, and I have seen how easily it can become to get carried away. Several times I have caught myself before I committed to doing something detrimental, in an attempt to improve quickly.

I will continue to use AS but I will often remind myself that there's a point of diminishing returns where the losses way outweigh the gains. It's a gray area, but you will know when you are there, our bodies speak to us.


Below is a T-mag article. It is an interview with a world class strength coach and powerlifter. Lou Simmons is 52 years old and strong as a bull at 242 lbs. He just squatted 900, benched 600. I have met Lou on several occasions and he has influenced my training heavily. He trains many great teams; Patriots, Green Bay to name a few and a host of D I teams.

Here's what Lou had to say about AS:


LS: The dangers are way overrated. It's corticoid steroids that they inject football players with every day that will kill you! Personally, I've done anabolic steroids straight for the last 28 years.

NM: Do you cycle?

LS: No, I stay on. I don't believe in periodization in training, either. I use mostly anabolics like Equipoise and Laurabolin until it's time for a competition, and then I do the harder androgens. I do not take Anadrol. I've never had any problems. There's no possible way I can train the way I do without taking anabolics, but the same techniques of training apply even if you're natural


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Hercules

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posted August 19, 2000 11:38 AM

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Great post Monst. and totally true. I have also seen many come and fall right before my eyes.


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Bchemist

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posted August 19, 2000 11:43 AM

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I was looking for that article. Thanks for reminding me where I read it before....


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Decaman

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posted August 19, 2000 11:58 AM

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Good shit bro! That dude has been on for 28 years without coming off, and no problems, hard to imagine that.

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Lthrnk

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posted August 19, 2000 12:17 PM

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Hey great article I also agree with that idea one must train hard and long but when its time to jump ahead use the a/s as a boost
but never stop training hard

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2Thick

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posted August 19, 2000 02:16 PM

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I would agree with most of that.

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The Ranger

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posted August 19, 2000 02:24 PM

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Yup,
Very true, and we're all guilty of it at one time or another....WE WANT IT ALL RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

Great post Bro!!!

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H2O

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posted August 19, 2000 02:25 PM

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Bravo!!

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Romeo

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posted August 19, 2000 04:30 PM

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monstrosity ..you and twisted steel ..think alike ..speak the same language when it comes to juice and novice juicers


good post brother


peace romeo

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Lqdmscle

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posted August 19, 2000 05:18 PM

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So true. Many first cycle are way overdose.

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Pup'nIrn

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posted August 19, 2000 08:26 PM

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Great post Monst'a, I preach this over and over to people but most just don't listen. Now years later, I am in the top position in my town as far as bodybuilding. Now they are finally taking notice. Oh, and 28 years on the juice....I have a friend who started at age 16 and has never been off. He is now at age 37. Now problems to date but finding clothes to fit him!


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bsjohnson

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posted August 19, 2000 08:32 PM

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damn that was a great post. Nice read..


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Big Wiggs

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posted August 19, 2000 09:23 PM

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Outstanding post.


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MONSTROSITY

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posted August 19, 2000 10:04 PM

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Glad you guys liked it, that's why we are all here.......to learn from one another.


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Jay Z

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posted August 19, 2000 10:22 PM

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yea, too many newbies start taking 1000mg test a week...they're all in a hurry to get big

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Yoda

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posted August 19, 2000 10:28 PM

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I agree 1000% with this one Brother!!!!!


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Luca Brasi

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posted August 20, 2000 01:05 AM

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Great post man, did you see muy post for you to email me the other day bro?


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Roy D. Rage

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posted August 20, 2000 01:14 AM

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Dam good article ....BUMP this bitch back up for the rest of the Bros' to read.

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evissam

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posted August 20, 2000 04:04 AM

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28 years! Holy Shit! I would still be using at almost 60 years old! Now that would be a sight!


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MONSTROSITY

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posted August 20, 2000 11:27 PM

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Luca,
I will email you. I just returned from a strongman contest.


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