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 1st cycle edited- please critique (hopefully for the last time)
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 94 |
I posted this cycle earlier in the week and have updated it based on the replys I recieved. Please tell me if I got it right this time. I would like to thank all who replied, especally Decaman. I moved the Deca up to week 1. I'm 20, 177 lbs, 10-12% bodyfat, 5'8" Sustanon Deca Clomid 500 400 50 eod 500 400 50 eod 500 400 50 eod 500 400 50 eod 500 400 50 eod 500 300 50 eod 500 200 50 eod 250 200 50 eod 50 ed 100 ed 50 ed I also have Nolvadex on hand.    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 62 |
That looks almost exactly like my cycle that I just finished (See my 8wk Cycle Complete post for results) and I gained over 30lbs. I had Dbol in the beginning though, 30mg for 2 weeks, then 20 for 2. I would suggest maybe throwing that in there in the beginning to get you jumpstarted, but other than that looks great! Good luck and keep us posted. Kain  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 94 |
Kain- was it your 1st cycle? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 62 |
Yeah, do a search for Kain and there should be a post called, 8wk Cycle Results or something like that. Has all the info. Kain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 119 |
did the same thing for my first..you will be happy with the results.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 119 |
Damn I got demoted to ameture...oh well | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 3700 |
That is a bit heavy for your first cycle. You could gain 25 pounds with just the Deca if you adjust your diet and training correctly. The Sust will be a waste for your first cycle. If anything you should lower it to 250mg/week. ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
I beleive you should lower the sust to 250mg per week. For this is more than enough for you to see gains on your first cycle. I like the deca you have that is a good touch and as far as clomid EOD I wouldn't worry about it. I think it to be a waste. The dosses aren't high enough. And the clomid after your cycle start 1 week after last shoot and start at 100mg than drop to 50mg the 2nd week good look. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 94 |
just curious as to why before people are telling me to use more, now everyone is telling me to use less? Could I please get more opinions on this cycle? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 528 |
The doses are fine where they are. 500mgs of sust is a good but not extreme dose. I would taper the deca a little later, ie run it for 8 weeks at 400mgs, then 300 for week 9, finally 200mgs for week 10. You should be very pleased with the results. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
Why? Some people are juice crazed freaks(thats ok sometimes). I believe you should only use 250mg of sust because For your first cycle it will act as if it were 500mg. You will see a hughe diff. Especially from the deca and sust mix. good luck. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 80 |
You've got to realize, everyone on here has had different experiences, different results, etc., etc., etc., so YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA GET SOME DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS! Your cycle is a basic first cycle. If you've done the research to put it together, you should be confident in yourself enough to go for it. None of the posts actually said that any of it was a "bad" idea. I'm not bashing, really, it's just I've found when I ask for general advice, it's general tips I get. You're only gonna get specifics if you ask extremely specific questions--GOOD LUCK!! Keep us updated on your gains/results, etc., while on... ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 888 |
Looks good but I would throw in some d-bol bro!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 528 |
H20..if 250mg is like 500mg for a novice, then wouldn't 500mg be like 1000mg? Why not take full advantage of your clean receptors and gain the most possible on this cycle? I'm not advocating 1g of sust plus others for a first cycle, but moderately generous doses like 500mg of sust and 400mg deca is the what I see as both very safe and effective. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 47 |
I happen to be in agreement with Krusher on this one. 500 mg of sust is, in my opinion, perfectly reasonable. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
Start low and see what happens. 2thick said it best. If you use 500mg of sus this time, expect to use more for your next cycle to see gains. Be patient! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
I said that because You have no idea what 250mg will do for you, if you have never taken it before. It was to judge how your body will react to it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 94 |
How about this one: Sust Deca D-Bol Clomid 500 300 30ed 50eod 500 300 30ed 50 eod 500 300 20ed 50eod 500 400 20 ed 50eod 250 400 50 eod 250 400 50 eod 250 300 50eod 250 300 50 eod 200 50 ed 100 ed 50ed 50ed Also, I may get Prooviron. Could you help me encorporate it into this or isn't it necessary to use unless gyno starts. I do have Nolvadex on hand. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
Funny Im thinking about doign the same type cycle but 1 question would yuou rather do the T-200 or do the Sust250......????? Well before I stock up would like to bump this up for more input...??? ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
sound right, but that is pretty heavy for your first cycle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 636 |
Unecessary expense for your first cycle. Completely uncecessary, but since your into excess what can we say. The composition of this cycle is fine. Good Luck ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 929 |
Drop the sust to 250mg per week and maybe throw in some dbol to kick things off. Everyone's opinion is different as to how a first cycle should go so you'll have to decide that one yourself based on the feedback from this thread. Peace...Mav | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 94 |
Twisted Steel- I assume your talking about the Proviron as not being useful. |
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posted August 19, 2000 10:43 AM