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 Starting third cycle: Critique
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 262 |
OK. I have all the components I need to start my third cycle. I will be taking 500mg of Omnadren split up on Monday and Friday of each week. I have not really decided if I want to change week 6 of the omna to 250mg and then add a week 7 at the same for a better taper. Since I have the winstrol I think that will make for the taper. The winstrol will also take over for the d-bol, so I don't want to have a discussion of tapering d-bol. Most of you know how I feel about tapering d-bol anyways  So this is it: Week---Omnadren---D-bol---stanzolol---clomid I figure that since the Omnadren will be active for a month, I will be doing a combo of a d-bol/test stack and a winny/test stack. So the best of both worlds. I have Nolvadex just in case, but I never needed it before. The suggestion box is open.     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 418 |
Cycle looks good bro , except I would maybe start the dbol higher and taper down a little instead og stopping at the highest amount. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 622 |
I figured Bchemist would know how to compose a thorough cycle. Now, im not saying any of you can't. As far as my perspective goes, this one is impeccable. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited August 19, 2000).]  | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1145 |
One thing I've been doing when using sust (or omna) is to double up off the top for the frist injection. Just a thought, really helps kick in the test - although you might find doing legs for the next day or so quite impossible  ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Thanks for the input. The initial load-up injection is definitely something I will have to consider.....and then continue as stated. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 515 |
I would inject the omnas every 3-4 days not mon and fri. Also, it would be better to add another week or 2 of omnas because it's gonna take until about week 8 for the winny to kick in and you don't wanna mini-crash off the d-bol. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 885 |
Looks pretty good Bchemist. Will you be shooting the winny or injecting? I am assuming injecting since you already have dbol in there. The only suggestion I would make is to do a shot every 4 days like Krusher said. On the cycle I am currently finishing, I started the shots out by doing them Monday and Friday for the first few weeks, but then I switched to doing them evry 4 days because I read everywhere that this was better. This would also extend that test dosage out a little and you would have more in your system while you were on the winny. Other than that it looks great bro. Can't say I am surprised. Good Luck! Peace...Mav | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 958 |
If you were to add a week seven I would keep it at the same dosage 500mg. The omna is self tapering. Other than that, looks great. chesty ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 3686 |
I can understand why you want to raise the dosage of the D-Bol at the end, but why not taper the last week? It will lead to a mini-crash and that could be catabolic. ------------------ http://2thick.elitefitness.com | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 116 |
Bchemist, this looks identical to the cycle I'm gonaa hit in mid Dec. I might use Sust. instead of the Omn. (Do you like the Omn. better?) I'm also gonna incorporate winnie in my cycle to help cut me up. What do you expect to gain -- Muscle vs. bodyfat, and can you post your BF and height now? I want to get the most of this cycle cuz I'm going out to Cancun for Spring Break so i want quality gains with little water retention as possible. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 23 |
your cycle seems to be perfect. it`r a good thing NOT to tapper of Dbol. I do it in this way, too and it works well. With the omnadren, you don`t need to do 2 injections, you can do them in one injection/week 2-3ml is no problem. and if you want to tell me now that it works better on two different day, because the fast acting testo ester works only a few day, forget it. it makes no different, because the 4 different esters work together, I mean they don`t raise the testo levels and than the next day they fall down, no, they always give the same amount of test to the body, this lasts 1 week, maybe 10 day. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Hmmm....I might take a middle of the road approach as far as the tapering d-bol goes. Maybe add a taper week like one of the vets suggested in a different thread such as Mon-30mg,Tues-25mg,Wed,20mg,Thurs,20mg,Fri-15mg,Sat-15mg,Sun-10mg. D-bol does have a half-life after all, and all my experience with d-bol suggests that this would be sufficient. I will be taking the winny orally because it isn't sterile. I have taken it before, and it only takes a few days to kick in for me. I get the same strength increases from it as d-bol, and the test should be in full effect by then anyways. So my theory is that the winny and test should allow me to maintain my forward progress during that no d-bol transition. I am taking the Omnadren twice a week at the 2-3 day interval to maintain a higher level of propionate in my system than I would have otherwise if taken every 4-5 days. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
I agree with 2thick. You need to start high with the D-bol and taper down. Dont go from 7 dianabol a day to none in a one week timeframe. Dianabol is very potent and that may be a big shock to your system. I see no need to taper the winny either..... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Oh yea..I am 5'9" at 175 with 6-7% bf. I have been cutting for the past 3 weeks to make room for any additional body fat that will come. Hopefully I will eat well enough to stay below 10%. If I took 2cc's in 1 day, I wouldn't be able to walk! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 462 |
START WHIT 1000MG OMNA AND 10DBOL/DAY ITS FOR REAL IF YOU WANT TO BE BIG,AND EAT ALL THE TIME AND SLEEP ALOT,,,,WOW YOU WILL BE FUCKING GROW MAN ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1033 |
1000 mg is too much. 750mg is plenty. you don't wanna get used to high dosages. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 885 |
Man Bchemist, I did the same thing. I went straight from dbol to oral winny and I am really worried about my liver. I only did it because I had already started the cycle and powdered winny was all I could afford. Make sure you take plenty of Milk Thistle. Peace...Mav | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Mav-don't sweat your liver bro. I think alot of what we hear is old-wives tales from people who don't know what they are talking about. We are dealing with moderate dosages anyways. If you ask any of the old guys who took d-bol by the handful for years and years back in the 70's about liver problems, they are going to laugh. I guarantee that the average college guy drinks his liver into poorer health in 10 weeks vs. 10 weeks of clean living and AS. And thanks for the concern....the milk thistle is covered. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 885 |
Glad to hear that someone doesn't think I destroyed my liver! I am still unsure. It bothers me enought that I might never take orals again. Hope you're right though! |
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posted August 19, 2000 09:09 AM