if you give quitting an honest shot, drink a warm glass of milk every night before bed if you can't sleep, it works, and when i quit i couldn't sleep because i used to always smoke a few bowls before bed. good luck

Correct me if Im wrong, but Macro posted a thread once concerning how both of the above mentioned contained "phytoestrogens"

My advice...

Just dont do either one on cycle.
WCP

But I look at it this way..if your on 750mg of sust, and not showing signs of gyno, then does that mean that you can push the envelope a bit. Or lets say that you are on some heavy orals...does that mean that I can have some beer everynight and just put that little extra strain on my liver??

My point is simply do what you want to..but I would not chance it.

Thats my take bro,
Later,
WCP

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legend

Pot affects everyone differently. If you don't enjoy it like you said you don't, Legend, then why in God's green earth would you do it?? My point here is that if you do enjoy it and it doesn't prevent you from achieving your goals then what is the harm in occasional use.

You all have read those studies that have all kinds of side effects listed to marijuana use and we have also seen all those side effects that are related to steroid use. Why is it that when we see reports saying that roids will kill you and are extremely dangerous that we immediately say the report is wrong and that it is the crooked government that is fucking up these studies just so we don't do roids. Yet if you don't like smoking pot and are against it, you will immediately believe everything that the gov't says it will do to you. I am sorry if you don't agree here but I think some of you are being very hypocritical with this issue.

Alot of roid users get mad when they here people say that steroids will kill you. It is the same situation here. You don't agree with its use so you go around telling everyone it is bad. Just doesn't make any sense to me how people only believe what they want to believe and everything else is just a lie. Some of you sound like the gov't here. Sorry for the flames fellas, I am just tired of weed getting such a bad rap when everyone just accepts steroids as perfectly normal.

There, I feel better now.

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legend

Man, I never lose my temper from AS but I tell ya'...stacking clen, t3, and Xenadrine makes you very edgy and I snap easily. To everyone who responded here, I am not a pot advocate and I would never recommend that anyone use any type of recreational drug, especially as a crutch.

It is just that alot of people on this board seem to look at pot the way that most natural bodybuilders look at steroids and that just upsets me. I hate it when people judge others by what they do, whether it is AS or pot or whatever.

I know so many big mofos who smoke ten times more than I do and are way more dedicated to lifting than I am not to mention much bigger than me. Just like with AS, I think the effects of pot on your body are greatly exaggerated. Sorry for the rage fellas. Just venting.

...From the makers of Cocainopure (TM)

(sorry, my smart ass mentality just couldn't resist)

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That which does not kill you makes you stronger.

eminem

This is all I could come up with on this.

From the journal Biochemical Pharmacology. 53(1):35-41, 1997 Jan 10.

ABSTRACT

"Delta 9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the primary active compound in Cannabis sativa (marihuana), and other cannabinoid receptor agonists exert potent effects on luteinizing hormone and prolactin release in animal models and humans. Compounds possessing the tricyclic cannabinoid structure, including delta 9-THC and cannabidiol, have been reported to interact with rodent uterine estrogen receptors in ligand binding assays. The present study tested the hypothesis that cannabinoid compounds produce a direct activation of estrogen receptors. We investigated whether cannabinoid compounds exhibit estrogen-induced mitogenesis in MCF-7 breast cancer cells. ... No response was observed with biologically relevant concentrations (< = 10 microM) of delta 9-THC or its tricyclic analog desacetyllevonantradol. No response was observed with cannabidiol, a bicyclic cannabinoid compound ... Delta 9-THC also failed to antagonize the response to estradiol under conditions in which the antiestrogen LY156758 (keoxifene; raloxifene) was effective. ... We also investigated the ability of cannabinoid compounds to stimulate transcription of an EREtkCAT reporter gene transiently transfected into MCF-7 cells. Neither delta 9-THC, desacetyllevonantradol, nor cannabidiol stimulated transcriptional activity. We conclude that psychoactive or inactive compounds of the cannabinoid structural class fail to behave as agonists in appropriate assays of estrogen receptor responses in vitro."

Sorry for all that technical jazz. Doesn't sound like much to me.

Bjaarki

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"'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten,
high under Heaven, the hero's name." - Hrolf Krakki's Saga (Iceland)

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legend