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el cubano

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From:Havana Cuba
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posted August 18, 2000 09:59 PM

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Steroids administered to previously untrained men beginning a weight training program appear to provide no benefit. It is only when highly trained individuals add a steroid regimen to their existing program that training gains are enhanced. This is why you should train for at least 1 year before you begin using steroids.

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pizza man

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posted August 18, 2000 10:01 PM

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almost the same thing was mentioned in the last months medical journal out of new york. It agrees w/you.


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300 kleen

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posted August 18, 2000 10:02 PM

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I absolutely agree!

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Decaman

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posted August 18, 2000 10:03 PM

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Also should shut all the a-holes up that say "I could look that way too for a few grand" Meanwhile they have never seen the inside of a gym!

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Twisted_Steel

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posted August 18, 2000 10:04 PM

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My mother wants to know where exactlly in Havana were you born. That is her place of birth. Ohh ya, diddo.

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el cubano

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posted August 18, 2000 10:04 PM

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Dam 300 kleen, I didn't realize that you had so many posts! I knew that you had alot, but dam!

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300 kleen

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posted August 18, 2000 10:27 PM

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Yea, they build up over time. I'm surprised that you don't have more because I remember you from way back in the early days of EliteFitness, even before you ventured off to Rock's and me to StacksandWeights.

We have to keep things in check overhere. It's fast growing board.

Later bro.

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Simon

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posted August 18, 2000 10:34 PM

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You cant build a building, without laying the foundation.


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jawoak

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posted August 18, 2000 10:40 PM

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What kills me are the guys in the bars (freshmen especially, i live in a college town) that have never worked out in their life and think if they kiss your ass enough that you will sell them a wonder drug that will make them look like Lee Priest!

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el cubano

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posted August 18, 2000 11:16 PM

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I live in Old Havana, near El Convento de Santa Clara. Don't want to give up too much info.

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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 11:20 PM

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Twisted Steel it's "exactly" with one L. LOL!! Got you back man.


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Lthrnk

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posted August 19, 2000 12:28 AM

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Bump this I also agree el c thats what give the game a bad wrap

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Badkins21

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posted August 19, 2000 12:34 AM

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I agree with the post about college kids (I just returned for my second year at Texas A&M--GIG 'EM AGGIES!) 'cause I work at Gold's Gym where I train and there are guys that think they should start juicing the first day they hit the gym. I've been bodybuilding for a year and a half now, and have been researching this stuff like crazy for months, and I know I'm not ready yet--hints the research!! After this X-mas, I'll have 2 years of hard training/good dieting and supplementation, and will have hit 3 amateur shows. I want my first cycle to be some aratest/either deca or eq/and some dbol or anadrol. I've posted these ideas before, but haven't gotten much feedback...please let me know what you guys think. I know about the clomid/nolvadex, too, so don't think I'm gonna end up looking like Dolly Pardon!

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Diver

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posted August 19, 2000 12:37 AM

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hey badkins send me a new freebirds tshirt!


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Vitaman

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posted August 19, 2000 07:00 AM

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I agree with the orginal part of this post. Wait at least one year or more.

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Kry

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posted August 19, 2000 07:05 AM

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I agree with the one year thing but not about the no benefits from gear if you haven't work out, I knew this guy who workout for 1 month then started a cycle of test and had some pretty good gains

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el cubano

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posted August 19, 2000 11:21 AM

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I got the original post from clinical studies done at, I think it was U of Michigan.

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WarLobo

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posted August 19, 2000 11:26 AM

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I disagree, I think it should be longer. Hell, your just starting to hit the stride aftr 12 months - put me down for a solid three years before one should use.... Hey, I'm an old fart and waited years.

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