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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 11:03 AM

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Well after waiting about 4 weeks my package arrived. The post man left a note requiring a signature. What should I do? I'm expecting about 4 packages from an international source. This sucks.


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posted August 18, 2000 11:11 AM

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Never sign, that is the creed I live by, once you sign the package is attached to you. This is just me and you have to get your gear somehow, so the decision is yours.

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growtime

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posted August 18, 2000 11:23 AM

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If your name isn�t on the pack, you could sign, with a different name and sign of course!

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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 11:30 AM

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growtime, it's not my real name so your saying sign it?


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Maverik

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posted August 18, 2000 11:33 AM

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If it is not your real name and you sign for it they can get you for forgery they happen to be watching. Peace...Mav


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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 11:37 AM

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Well looks like I'm gonna have to right off $1000 worth of gear. I ordered my entire 12 week cycle at once. STUPID!!


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ulter

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posted August 18, 2000 11:44 AM

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Hacker,
I've stated this on this board a few times.
Don't Sign!!
I signed once and before I could get back to my car I had FBI badges in face and it was the beginning of a very long day in the federal building in San Diego. It featured a small room with me, a little table, and 3 FBI agents with a lot of questions. About 6-8 hours worth as I remember. I don't know why your source sent your goodies "signature required" but that is the surest way to get cracked if they nail your package coming in. Ask you guy if that is indeed how he sent it. If he says no blow it off. If he says yes ask him why and if he would consider reshipping. If he won't you are taking a big chance signing to get it.


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ripped to shreads2

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posted August 18, 2000 11:50 AM

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shit that sucks


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2legit2quit

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posted August 18, 2000 12:00 PM

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I've had the post office give me the wrong package before! For a minute there I was wondering why my source would send me a bundle of baby clothes and a note written in...well lets just say not in English. Newman!


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coolhandluke

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go down to the po and sign for the damn thing. it is plausible that feds could come to your door but they will not have undercover agents waiting for days at the po for you to show up. if you wanna be safe then take it to a friends house or whatever after you pick it up...


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posted August 18, 2000 12:32 PM

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I agree with coolhandluke, sign for the damn thing.

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ulter

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posted August 18, 2000 12:54 PM

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CoolHandLuke, He might get away clean. I agree he might. With all due respect stop sitting in Poland and telling people here that the Feds don't grab people at the PO here. They do. I had my car impounded, the leasing company had to get it back, if I had owned the car I would have never got it back because I sat down in it as they were busting me, I went through a lot of money defending it and I got picked up in front of the Post Office.


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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 12:55 PM

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They were waiting for Ulter apparently. Ulter what happened after the questioning?


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dafoe69

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posted August 18, 2000 12:58 PM

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what about having someone else sign the name like a friend and if he gets picked up he can say someone paid him a few bucks to pick it up for him?

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ulter

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posted August 18, 2000 01:04 PM

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That's a hell of a friend. Would you do that for someone?


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dafoe69

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posted August 18, 2000 01:07 PM

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Fuck ya I'm a stand up guy for who ever I call a friend. There's nothing they can't ask of me. Just say "hey some guy offered me 100 bucks to pick it up for him, wouldn't you do it?" Thats my line.


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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 01:11 PM

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Thanks for that daefo but if you think about it, it's a really bad idea. They will bust you in the end.


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dafoe69

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posted August 18, 2000 01:13 PM

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can you do a return to sender on the package and then talk to your guy?


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ulter

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posted August 18, 2000 01:15 PM

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Like I suggested earlier you shouldn't do anything until you speak to the sender.


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dafoe69

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posted August 18, 2000 01:17 PM

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Listen to ulter he's been there and done that I really haven't been through it. All I have is assumptions.


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Steelheart

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posted August 18, 2000 01:23 PM

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Do what I would do if I decided to order 15 omnas from someone.
Put a note at the door saying I authorize you to leave this without a signature. Thats what I did and he put it in my mail box. I mean, thats what they would do.


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Jae

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Hey dude, straight up experience talking here. If you do sign for it, they don't have to be sitting there waiting to nail you. They could be at their office or on vacation, next thing you know, couple of days later or even a week, you get a knock on the door and they are there waiting to question you. They have your signature, plus more than likely one of their officers will be posing as the delivery man so he can ID you as being the one to sign it.
Don't go that "I am picking it up for a friend shit" That just pisses them off. Then they want you to tell on this so called "friend" and when you don't you have another charge of OBSTRUCTION being tacked onto your ass. In addition to the Possession, Smuggling, and/or Distribution if they teemed it too much.
My advice is if you cant leave a note saying to authorize a drop without a signature, then just sign the damn thing. If they nail you, plead innocent. Say you were told that you didn't have to have an RX for it. And you thought if it was from another country surely they would not sell you anything that was against our laws (yeah right... ) but act stupid. At the most, what could happen was that they sweep through your place looking for more things than just "dirty supplements" So get rid of any child porn you may have.
And email me at [email protected] to let me know what you did.

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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 02:55 PM

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Jae, experience, tell us what happened to you. BTW, I don't think the playing stupid thing will get me out of trouble.


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Okay, don't get irrational.

Ask the postman why he needs a signature. If it is not sent registered or Express (with signature required), then there is no reason to sign for it and he should know that. Tell him that if that is the case and watch for his reaction.

If is registered, then sign for it and enjoy it. Talk to your postman about it. Maybe he needs confirmation that you received the package (if the package is being tracked).

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LittleSavage34

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SIGN FOR IT! True, someone might approach you, but this is what I do...misspell your last name by 1 or 2 letters, and sign for it regular. My name is Jonathan, but I use John. First, the company messes up my name...second, if anyone DOES say anything, I just show them the package, UNOPENED and say "I never ordered this. Hell, the bastards didn't even spell my name right." That should get ya away.


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Hacker

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2thick, I know my source didn't send it registered, and the slip says registered mail. When I received your darts they just left it in the mail box without signature. Also that fact that is has been about 4 1/2 weeks since it was delivered.


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ulter

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posted August 18, 2000 03:11 PM

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LittleS If you are standing in front of the Judge and they ask the postal worker if this is the man that signed for the package and he says yes. What do you think the Judge will say about the name you signed? He won't care if you signed with an X.


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THESAINT

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posted August 18, 2000 03:13 PM

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I signed once. You can contact me at
Levenworth Penitentiary, cell#132.


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bill27

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posted August 18, 2000 03:15 PM

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I KNOW IF I PAID $1000.00 FOR SOME GEAR AND IT NEEDED SIGNED I WOULD END UP TAKING THE CHANCE BUT THAT IS ME.


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This is pretty bad. First, if a package was not sent registered and the postman asked for a signiture, then the best bet was it was a controlled delivery. Now, the post is asking alot for signitures on international packages, whether registered or not. I know alot of people that have signed for stuff before and had no problems. I guess you just have to trust your senses.

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2Thick

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posted August 18, 2000 03:17 PM

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Have them re-deliver the package.

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posted August 18, 2000 03:19 PM

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Hacker,

Just out of curiosity, what was the originating country (if your willing to share that info).

Later,


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ripped to shreads2

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i was wondering the same thing was it from asia?? i had the same thing happen to me i signed and nothing happened


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Hacker

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posted August 18, 2000 03:28 PM

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coming from Europe. Being that it is the entire 12 week cycle that I planned, will I have a hard time proving it was for personal use?


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ripped to shreads2

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posted August 18, 2000 03:30 PM

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can you specify the country


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always have the package sent to an address with a different name...if you get your goods dont open it for a couple of days..maybe even a couple of weeks if its a big shipment...you could tell them "oh i thought it was a gift from someone"..and dont open for a while...if the feds come you will have the box still unopened..because you "havent had time to take it back to the post office"


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Bro, I would go get my shit and stash it somewhere, be prepared for the bumrush, but if you let it sit there for a week, I doubt you'll be picked up right there. That is too much gear to give up. Just let it sit there for a week, get it, stash it, and use it.


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Hacker

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Ripped, check your email. I don't want to tell what country on the board.
Yes, I did use a fake name. Fuck it I'm just gonna sign for it. See you in prison!!


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Hacker,

If you would not mind, fire that email my (the specific country). Thanks in advance, bro.

Later,

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ulter

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hacker, they won't send you to prison. It's just a fine your first time. BTW tell your source no hard feelings.


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IndyMan2

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Hey Hacker, I received two packages from International source. I also got a notice that they were registered and I had to go sign for them. I went and tried to sign and pick them up at the post office but they wanted picture ID. I was screwed since I used a fake name. I argued with the clerks in the post office since my source asssured me that he DID NOT send them registered. Later, I called the central post office in my city, they informed me that for international mail, that even though the sender did not make the packages registered mail, the country of origin COULD make the items registered. Which may be why your shit is being tagged "registered". Hope this helps.


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I signed for 3 packages at 3 different times from the same source. He ships from Europe
but doesn't send registered. He said the US makes it a registered mail when it comes from their country. I also signed for 2 other packages, 1 from Ireland and 1 from Germany. These 2 were shipped registered.

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i had a friend get nabbed coming out of the P.O. with his pack in hand...those guys will get you if they want you

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Bro's this is the mother of all ideas. Tell your source to try to get the package to you within a week of your birthday or someone's you live with (give him pleanty of time to make arrangements and maybe throw in a couple extra bucks). Then if you don't have to sign, great! But if you do, and you get busted, just say "hey, it's so and so's birthday and I've been getting packages all week. I don't check the senders. Inly people who have something to worrying about do that!"

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LOL!! Thats pretty good Swollen. See if I can pull something crazy like that off. BTW, what the hell did you smoke to come up with that?


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Well, this is a very sobering thread.

After reading some of the stings, I just can't sign for anymore packages.

Thanks all for your posts.

Peace bros.


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I am sure this will affect the sleeping patterns of quite a few dozen bros for a few nights to come, hehe..

john


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nothing. just poped in my head one day!


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I agree with those saying "just sign for the damned thing."

And start enjoying your cycle. The chances of a set up are so extremely small as to practically warrant no consideration.

As I have explained on this board in the past, it is not uncommon for a local post office, either for ass-covering, bureaucratic/administrative purposes or their simple unfamiliarity with receiving international parcels, to give recipients a yellow slip of paper asking them to sign. Even if the package was not sent registered or certified.

Moreover, in certain countries -- for example, Russia, where I live -- the central international postal mailing facility can, and occasionally does (for some reason I still can't understand, except that it's the former Soviet Union with some pretty whacky regulations) put a certified mail number on a package before it leaves the country -- even if was posted at a local post office as a simple ordinary parcel requiring NO signature. This is a fact, and it doesn't apply only to Russia but other countries as well.

Stop the bloody negativism. You asked a question. How many bro's have reported to you they've been burned?

My opinion of earlier (these panicked messages crop up from time to time) is still the same: You have a better chance of winning the grand prize of the state lottery than getting set up or burned.

This whole signature thing has been so blown out of proportion that it's approaching real paranoia in the psychological sense. Fueled, in my opinion, by the very few, practically isolated cases of people getting set up and burned -- and perhaps a lawyer or two. Or a domestic source with his or her own axe to grind.

My suggestion is to communicate with your source. Give him your sob story. Ask him for compensation, and never plan to order from him again -- because he probably already has so many other, happy, clients and is so busy that he doesn't need the nuisance anyway.

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Hey Bro,
completely agree with Dexter, especially if its such a large order. Strap on a pair and sign for the gear. It is very unlikely that it is a setup, especially at a po box. Setups like this usually are for the bigger boys. A small fish like u who sends money via western union and doesnt know a thing about the supplier doesnt do a thing for the DEA. Just my 2 cents.
Keep Bangin'
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hmmm.....good post dex.

I have had too sign for a couple of packages that were not addressed to me. Only problem I had was convincing the postmaster that the package had to be for me.

There were a couple of funny cars haning out on my street for a couple of days. Turned out to be the narcotics police who busted the guy two doors down for drugs or something. I think he might've been a dealer.

When you read all these threads, it kinda makes you paranoid. But in the end you gotta ask yourself what kinda fish are you? A guppie or a great big trout?

If you don't have to show your ID, just sign for the package and wait about a week before opening it.

Good luck to you bro.

keep us posted.


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IndyMan2

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As I said in an earlier post on this thread, I argued till I was blue with the damn clerk at the post office. They even brought out the damn Postmaster and I yelled and screamed at her. If it had been a setup, they could have busted my ass wide open right there and then. But, it turned out to be nothing more than a power struggle with the post office idiots.


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I think what Dex said is right. And what Indyman said is so true. I think the post is trying to improve it's service or something by having recipients of international packages sign for them. Two things I find useful are:

1. If you add a C/O to your fake name, that makes it easier for the post man to have anyone sign for it and take it, as you'd be receiving for a friend.

2. When they actually open the package and see what's inside, they don't repackage it exactly as it came. So, if you know how your source packages, ask to see it first. And if it's been tampered with, then you don't sign.

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I'm dying to know what happened with this package. This is like a great novel!!


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Sign for it my ass, I lost 1,000$ worth of gear last time. I did not sighn for it, ten minutes later two DEA agents were knocking on my door. They wanted to search I told them no, they opened an investigation on me interviewed my wife etc. I did not sign and it was not in my name so they were screwed.
If you sign you are asking for it.


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Do you usually have to put up with this much of a hassle for domestic packages??


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I signed for one of my packages. But it was a unique situtation. I came home and saw a notice in the mail box that the mail was there. I hunted him down in the street and had to sign just so he can save his ass if he gave it to the wrong person or something along those lines.

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Someone also mentioned a while ago that the Post office laws changed. They can't leave a package at your door if there is no proof that the person lives there. A name o nthe mailbox is all th proof thay need.
So basically if the they can't find the addressee they will take it to the post office instead of leaving it there.

Agt least thats waht they do in my neck of the woods.

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Hacker, did you sign for it or what bro? What happened?


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I can't say anything at the moment. I'm sitting here with the DEA agent as we speak. He's saying probably a year in prison tops.


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sign for the damn thing, if they are going to get you they will!!! they have your home addy at the PO so just take it to a friends or hide it well.. good luck


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I say take it.Write return to sender on it and let it lie around for a week. If nothing happens then go for it!


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Ok sighn for it, take it to someone elses house and leave it there for 3 weeks


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posted August 22, 2000 07:17 AM

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Hacker are you serious?


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While I can appreciate the proper perspective in which people have put this whole signing thing, Hacker, surely this must be a joke.

Why would anybody be squirreling around online on the EF board with the DEA sitting in his home?

Still, I would appreciate it if you would clarify this.

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You'd better hope he's kidding. Because if he's not kidding, the only guy that's going to be more pissed off than him is me.


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Come on guys you have to know I was kidding!! The post office is all jacked up. They were supposed to redeliver on Sat. and didn't. Then they said they would redeliver yesterday (Mon) and didn't. So I called the post office and yelled and screamed for 30 minutes. They will definitely redeliver today. I'll keep you posted as to what happened.


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I agree with GoldenSun7. This is like a great novel. I can't wait to hear about what happened to this package. Makes me thankful I don't order vitamins like this from anyone.

Hacker, fill us in.


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Hey one more suggestion, that shit about getting it and leaving it laying around for a week or so is a bullshit idea. Then they will think you are fronting for a bigger dealer and really nail your ass. And this idea of taking it to a friends house. Some fried you would be dragging another person into some shit.
man you just sign for it and pray that you have no prior convictions. Again, play stupid if you get in hot water. Tell them "Hey, it wasn't illegal in that country, I didn't know. I just ordered it off the internet. I didn't have any idea."

Of course if you are 255 pounds, 6 percent body fat, wearing a do-rag around your head, with enough acne on your back to scare flies, this may not work.

Peace.


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This thread is an advertisement for domestic sources. I feel for you Hacker. Reading it, I was reminded of why I stopped ordering anything other than cytadren and clomid internationally. The headache and potential risk simply do not justify the savings IMHO. Pay the mark ups and let the dealers shoulder the risk of importation. Thats the conclusion I've reached after many stressful experiences like this one. Just thankful I never got nailed. Take care...


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Bump.

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If it makes you that nervous then dont do it.......trust yourself and find another way.


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Why would anyone send sign required???


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FUCK THE POST OFFICE!!!!!!! They didn't redeliver again today. I finally got a hold of the local branch manager. They will redeliver tomorrow for sure. I said nobody will be there, can I leave a note on the door to leave on doorstep? He said yes. My problem is that I'm expecting 3 or 4 packages and they only have 1. WTF is up with that? Where are the other packages? I have to believe if something was up they would have done something by now. Agreed? Whatever I'm FUCKEN BITTER!!! I can't sleep with all this shit going on.


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What a pain in the ass...

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