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Asian Muscle Machine
Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 71
From:LA, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asian Muscle Machine   Click Here to Email Asian Muscle Machine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is going to be my 1st cycle.

.....deca.....dbl.....clomid
1wk..300......30mg....50eod
2wk..300......25......50eod
3wk..300......20......50eod
4wk..300......15......50eod
5wk..300......10......50eod
6wk..300..............50eod
7wk..300..............50eod
8wk..300..............50eod
9wk...................100ed
10wk..................50ed

I am 5'7" and 210lbs with about 17% bf.
I have been training for 13years without gear and been competing and won several bodybuilding titles.
I weighed about 170lbs last year's competition and definately gained some muscle since then.
What do you think?
Do you think deca should be up to 400/wk?
Better to add omna/sus something like that?
Please help me out!

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Badkins21
Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 37
From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Badkins21   Click Here to Email Badkins21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do a search and you'll find a hundred posts, EXACTLY LIKE YOURS!!! Do your research first, then ask specific questions. Definitely add some test into this cycle!

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turbo
Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 27
From:Raleigh, NC USA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for turbo   Click Here to Email turbo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree w/ badkins21...add some sust.

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td24
Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 192
From:hot springs
Registered: May 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for td24   Click Here to Email td24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen to the bros!! Add some sust!!

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bgriff
Pro Bodybuilder

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From:barnhart,mo,USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea add some sust or ara-test!!

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Asian Muscle Machine
Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 71
From:LA, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asian Muscle Machine   Click Here to Email Asian Muscle Machine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you very much for all your replies.
but dont you think its too much for 1st user to add sus.?
dont i get similar result without sus.?
thanks again.

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"Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream."

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moondog
Amateur Bodybuilder

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Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 18, 2000 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondog   Click Here to Email moondog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMM,
Many think that the first cycle is the most critical. I would recommend a gram of test a week and bumping the deca to 400 mgs. Good luck to you.
-moondog

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Lqdmscle
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posted August 18, 2000 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A gram of test a week for a first timer? WTF??? Save the sus for later AMM. Start small and work your way up.

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moondog
Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted August 18, 2000 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondog   Click Here to Email moondog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you know what to look out for in the way of side effects, yeah, why not a gram? Maybe this is aggressive, but the guy seems to have the weight to do it (though I don't know if that matters). Maybe you disagree, but I wish I had been more aggressive as a juice beginner. I was really conservative at first and wish I hadn't been. Frankly, I don't think the sides of test are much different at 1,000 mg/week than at 500 mg. I do, however, think the gains are better. Its really up to the individual. This is just my 2 cents.
cheers,
moondog

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Asian Muscle Machine
Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:LA, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 18, 2000 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asian Muscle Machine   Click Here to Email Asian Muscle Machine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lq says save test. for later and moon says 1g of sus.
I am confused.

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moondog
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posted August 18, 2000 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondog   Click Here to Email moondog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMM,
All I'm saying is that that if you do a dbol/deca cycle, you will be very happy with the gains. However, if you are like me, you will start asking yourself "what if . . ." I just think that you're probably gonna be taking test in 6 months anyway, so why not start now. If it makes you uncomfortable, then don't bother. I'm just operating under the assumption that the first cycle will be the most effective. I've heard this over the years and sort of taken it as a fact, though I haven't seen studies to back it up. Either way, its good to do the research.
cheers,
moondog

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Bronco
Pro Bodybuilder

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From:USA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted August 18, 2000 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bronco   Click Here to Email Bronco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if u won natural titles, u might want to consider staying natural. well then again
forget aboutid, cycle is ok for starters,
just remember your last workout before you start they will never be the same!
be safe
bronco

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BigPapaPump
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posted August 18, 2000 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd start with adding sust in the first 5 to 6 wks @ 500 to 750 mg.wk. This will give you that initial bump. Up your deca to 400 mg/wk. I think E2 has a nice little cycle consisting of those items, there is a post somewhere on the board with it.

BPP

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