GEORGE SPELLWIN'S ANNOUNCEMENTS
Enlightening Men about Anabolic Steroids and Bodybuilding for over Two Decades
|
 George Spellwin's ELITE FITNESS Discussion Boards
 Anabolic Discussion Board
 I need some experienced bro's to help me out with my diet, i'll return the favor!
|
| Author | Topic: I need some experienced bro's to help me out with my diet, i'll return the favor! |
|
BillyBadAss Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 170 |
posted August 17, 2000 05:46 PM
   
I'm 5'11 220 lbs. 13.7% bf. I'm currently taking 750mg sos/wk. Last week I upped cals to 4500/day on avg. and gained three lbs this week. I've put on 14 lbs this month, and an inch on my arms. Now i want to diet down. Please give me suggestions, i'm thnking about adding an hour of cardio to my workout, and dropping calories to about 2500, with 350g of protein minimum.I've got one month and i want to get under 10% bf.I figure i've got about 28 pounds of fat, i'd like to loose about half of that this month. I had a notion that if i could burn 5000 calories a day ( don't know how yet, might start boxing) and consume 1500 calories a day, i would loose a pound of fat a day. By the way, will the test be effective on such limited calories? I will also add e/c/a. IP: Logged |
|
Twisted_Steel Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 562 |
posted August 17, 2000 05:57 PM
Giving your self a 30 day deadline to lose 28 lbs of fat, not to mention a 50% reduction in caloric intake will yield appriciable muscle loss. The myth that an athlete need to up his protein to compensate for a lack of carbohydrates "because carbs=fat" is a bullfaced myth. You need complex carbs, and they best not fall below a certain relative state, other wise all that newly earned muscle mass will be exposed to a highly catabolic environment. The fact of the matter is, those persons consuming ridiculous amounts of protein, 1/2 to twice their body weight on a per gram bases are only fucking up their gastral intestinal tract, and looking for a colostomy. The body even on steroids which increase the rate of protein synthesis need no more than 1g of protein per lb of body weight. This plan along with a comperable amounts of properly spaced comlex carbs and fats, along with basic cardio and thermogenic supplementation will yield the desired loss in adipos tissue all the while maintaing newly aquired muscle mass. Good fuckin day.  ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
SINBAD Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 4 |
posted August 17, 2000 06:15 PM
Bro where ya at in youre cycle?All though i dont think it will matter if youre still cycleing whats the point of cuttin youre cals hell youre just wasting the gear you wount gain shit off that many cals ya should have went with primo&winny maybe save the sust for some serious bulking in the winter but with that said youre goal of losing a pound aday well you might wont to forget it not saying it isnt possible but youll look n feel like shit maybe more like apound or two a week. when youre done cycling keep youre protien at a high levle up youre fat levles the place to cut youre cals willbe youre carbs cut maybe 500cals aweek and asses weekly "how much did i lose should i cut more ect.... IP: Logged |
|
chestyII Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 899 |
posted August 17, 2000 07:56 PM
I have tried diets for contest both with carbs and 1 gm protein per pound of body weight and low carbs and 1.5 -2 gms of protein per pound. For me, I have found that keeping the fats at about 15% protein at 80% and carbs to 5% yield the most fat lost and the least amount of muscle loss. As for the messing up your system with too much protein, just drink more water. If you don't you will get plugged up. The thing to remember is to experiment. Try several different methods. You may find you work better with higher carbs and such or with high protein. The idea behind consuming fat while dieting is the same as drinking water to shed water. If you provide your body with fat for energy in moderate amounts, when that runs out the body will go for the fat stores to continue the process. On the other hand if you cut out fat, your body will not "remember" how to metabolize the fat stored. As for the carbs, the number one enemey to losing fat is a bouncing insulin level. If it is spiking high and then dropping to below its normal level, your metabolism will slow down and you will be more prone to storing everything as fat. If you do consume carbs and you will need to. I would try at 50gms a day all before noon, and all with the lowest possible glycemic index. Remember, it is an individual thing and each person will respond differently. 1 month to lose twenty-eight pounds, that is too quick. At 2500 calories a day it won't happen. If it does as twisted_steel says all your hard earned gains out the window. I usually shoot for 10-12 weeks for that kind of fat loss. Why do you need to lose it? You just put it on? chesty ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
Badkins21 Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 30 |
posted August 17, 2000 08:22 PM
OK, most of the basics have been covered...but some tips I would add are 1) if you're not gonna hit the T3/clen/winny, etc., etc., find a good thermogenic like Xenadrine by Cytodyne or Lipokinetix, and a good thyroid enhancer like Pro-Lab's Thyrolean or just some guggelsterones, 2) eat very frequently, but just enough to put food inside you (and I personally like Solid Protein bars by Nature's Best, but that's just me, some say they're candy bars!), 3) divide your cardio to 2 sessions a day, not one long one. 4) if you tan, put Prep-H on your abs, glutes, etc., to really tighten the skin up when you're dieting. If you have any specific questions, feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]... ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
BillyBadAss Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 170 |
posted August 17, 2000 08:30 PM
Guys....i don't expect to lose 28 pounds of fat in a month, nor do i want to. I'd like to drop my bodyfat under 10%, right now it's about 13.7% So really, i only want to loose about 10-12 pounds this month. Here's what i'm going to do, please help with suggestions and comments. Diet will be high protein, moderate carb, low fat diet.350g protein/day= 1400 cal IP: Logged |
|
chestyII Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 899 |
posted August 17, 2000 08:48 PM
I would decrease the carbs way down. 500mg of test is to much for cutting (my opinion) I would do something like this 350-450 gms protein (I weigh 245) I would not eat anything at least 2 hours before workout, and wait 20-30 minutes after workout before eating. And then eat first some carbs like 25 gms of carbofuel. Nothing to eat at least 2 hours before bed. NOTHING. I would use 250 gms sust a week. Why are you trying to lose the fat? Aren't you trying to add weight? ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
Pharm Animal Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 91 |
posted August 17, 2000 08:48 PM
everything is set in moderation. if you do not moderate yourself with ALL aspects of your diet, something severe will come out of it. my best advice is to stay within conventional practices, and modify only when calculated differences are justified. these guys have some solid advice, so i don't think i'll expand on it ------------------ IP: Logged |
All times are ET (US) | |
 |
|
|