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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 15, 2000 06:14 PM
   
Hi guys, Just a quick question(s) about Serostim. I haven't seen any posting on this HGH info. I weigh 188, 5'9", 27 years old. I have never used any form of GH before. In the past from ages 19-22 I did cycles of various things, mostly cypionate test, enanthate test, water based test, Winstrol tabs and Winstrol-V, halotestin, anadrol. Not really mega doses but I did go from 135 to 190 in the course of a few years. (hey lot of food guys) I was in a car wreck five years ago and injured my back, it kept me out of the gym for almost 2 years, started training again, completely natural. Now my weight and size (minus a little thickness) has returned. I am a little stronger now than I was back then while cycling. My cardio has improved also. I have just ended a mild cycle of Anavar (oxandrin) I was just taking three tabs a day. I put on about a quick five pounds and have become a little stronger. I think the most I have seen off of this cycle, was just a return of the spark I once had, and recovery time has improved, not to mention that the pump I get is more intense. I have a few boxes of Serostim I am going to use. I just need to find out a little bit about administering and dose amounts. could anyone help me? I have heard it is only good for 24 hours after mixing. But I have heard of only using 2I.U.'s per day, which will definately take longer to store than 24 hours. (There are approx. 18I.U.'s in a bottle, box states) I am not looking to use mega dosages as I have no desire to compete anymore. Not only that, I have learned in the past that my body responds best to moderate doseages. All upping the amounts does is increase my water retention and waste gear. I am just looking for about 10-15 pounds of solid muscle. what do you guys think? I am going to be stacking this with cyp. test, Deca-Durabolin (which I have never used before) and possibly some more Oxandrin (Anavar) so what I am wondering about is: How much Serostim would be an acceptable doseage, some people say 3i.u.s per day, some people say 8i.u.s per day. When is best to inject at night? Day? Also where to inject? thighs, stomach? I have heard of some people not just taking it below the skin, but Instramuscular as well. What do you think? Should I start the Serostim immediately when I start the Test and Deca stack or give it a couple weeks to kick in before I plug the GH in. What would reasonable expectations be? thanks a lot guys, I hope to find someone with serious and positive experience with this. I can then send more info of my diet, training, and other supplementations if need be to give a better picture of myself. And all replies will be in strict confidence. Hopefully someone in this gym brotherhood will share some info with me. IP: Logged |
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Twisted_Steel Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 573 |
posted August 15, 2000 06:16 PM
you said it would be a quick question. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Consultant Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 124 |
posted August 15, 2000 06:21 PM
As much as you can afford but 4iu's everyother day will do just fine. IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 15, 2000 06:32 PM
I have 7 boxes. That is 49 vials all together. The vial says 6mg, 18i.u.'s Taking 4 i.u.'s every other day would have me using one vial a week. But the package insert says it is good only for 24 hours after constituting the mixture. What am I missing here? Also in the AM or PM for injections. Yeah, it was suppose to be a quick question. But I wanted to give enough details to get an informed answer. Thanks IP: Logged |
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BigPapaPump Moderator Posts: 501 |
posted August 15, 2000 08:49 PM
Sub Q injections need to be daily. IM can be throught a week. 4 to 8 iu daily seems to be normal, Sub Q, with that divided into an am and pm injection. Also, don't remember your math but if your vials are listed in MG, the conversion is 1 mg equals 2.7iu. I'm not a gh expert but providing you do refridge your gh I se no reason why it would not keep longer than 24 hrs. I think the 24 hr thing was started as a means to prevent bacteria from growing within the vial....wild guess. My only experiences to date with gh have been mixed. A few months ago after only 4 days, the gh made me bodily ill. IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 16, 2000 09:54 AM
Thanks BPP, anyone else tried this? IP: Logged |
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Twisted_Steel Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 573 |
posted August 16, 2000 10:11 AM
Yes growth hormone can be kept for weeks in a refigerated state after recombination. The warning was issued by the company because those with immuno compromoised systems my be at risk to the bacteria which can develop as a result. Those of healthy immune systems need not worry. Praise God, every day that your healthy enough to benefit from these prodcuts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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susthead Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 236 |
posted August 16, 2000 11:24 AM
you only actully need to do 4ius straight after a workout with gh becasue all gh does is make the liver produce igf1 and igf1 as very long half life you dont need to do daily shots. also take 25mcg of t3 on the days you do gh. IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 16, 2000 11:50 AM
Oh crap. I have no T3. I better get to scratching some of that up. Also, should I avoid oral juice at this time. I have Oxandrin (Anavar) and Winstrol that I can use, but would not want to put undue stress on my liver. IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 267 |
posted August 16, 2000 01:14 PM
Your have enough to last you almost a year. Do at least 4ius a day. Since each vial is 18ius, 3 shots per vial. Thats 6ius a day. Don't worry about orals. Do your normal steroids and think of GH as a secret ingredients. The best time to take is before bedtime. You can take in the shoulders. You don't need a break from GH. Take it as long as you can afford. You have enough to put on some good muscle mass. GH will separate you from the rest! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 16, 2000 02:09 PM
I heard that the best place to take it is to directly inject it into a little fat tissue on your stomach with an insulin pin. What do you think? Or should it be taken Intramuscular? IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 267 |
posted August 16, 2000 04:17 PM
Intramuscular or subcutaneous. It's up to you. I've always done it in the shoulders. 1cc Insulin syringe is what I like to use. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 16, 2000 04:56 PM
Dude! What did yo pay for seven boxes of Serostim from Serono?! I paid $500.00 per box! Did I get ripped AM IP: Logged |
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1 Mistake Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 273 |
posted August 16, 2000 05:08 PM
Quite a few questions  You need AT LEAST 4 ius per day,taken in 2 shots under the skin.I think it helps to take 1 day off from the GH per week.So a minimum of 4ius Mon.-Sat.take Sun. off. Its better to do more GH than less.If you don't take enough,you will be wasting your loot.T-3 is a good idea also. GH seems to work better with a high level of androgens.GH will most likely help heal your back injury-it tends to help tendons,ligaments,and nerve damage.I'd say 3 months is the minimum duration for GH to be really effective.I've done well over 10 kits so I've learned a few things.Be ready to fuck up your sleeping patterns!!! Be a good idea to get some xanax!!J IP: Logged |
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Thunder Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 140 |
posted August 16, 2000 07:05 PM
Don't worry I 'll let you in on a secret unless you have aids don't worry about the 24 hour rule on the serostim I went crazy tring to figure this out and Here is the answer. If you have aids your immune system is shoot so your body can't fight off bacteria and the reason serostim says 24 hours is that after that time bacterila growth inside or on top of the bottle occcurs. Why because you expose a needle to air to mix the solutions no mater what it goes into the vial but if you don't have aids your body will wack right throught the bacteria. So serostim says use within 24 hours so they don't put the aids patients at risk. The water is the same as the huma trope and siazen and don't worry about getting bacteriol static solution. Ust 4is a day and go on some kind of steriod even if it winny tabs. They work alot better in a androgentic enviroment also take some t-3 and insulin but if you don't like messing with that/ use Alpha lipolicacid 200mg with meals and water soluble iodine to help thyriod functions ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 16, 2000 08:17 PM
Anabolic Man where did you get your gear from? That is cheap by my standards. I bought 7 boxes (7vials per box) for about $380 per box. I have a friend who is HIV+ and she went to see another doctor and he prescribed this to her as well as her regular doctor. Her insurance picked up 75% of the bill, so it was retailing for around $1600 per box. I would stick with what you have access to now unless it is fake or something. Give me over the weekend and I will post a picture of my box and vials and you can compare yours to them. IP: Logged |
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bill27 Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 13 |
posted August 16, 2000 09:26 PM
I HAVE TAKEN THE HGH AND YOUR SUPPOSE TO INJECT IT BEFORE YOU GO TO BED THATS WHAT THE DIRECTIONS IN THE BOX TELLS YOU TO DO IP: Logged |
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Mlrtime1 Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 151 |
posted August 16, 2000 10:38 PM
My experience: 4IU every training day 2IU first thing in am 2IU at bed Inuslin every day, 6IU first in am, 6IU immediately after training. Gear-test,d-bol,deca Good diet w/LOTS of protein Creatine Gained 23lbs. Off insulin and HGH 3wks, lost 5lbs. Never, ever, gained so much. I'm not a newbie. Getting on HGH again tomorrow..hehehe. Good luck. IP: Logged |
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 17, 2000 03:24 PM
Dude, I know a guy with AIDS and he does the same thing. He sells each box for $500.00 to me. The boxes are REAL. I know this because he gives them to me shrink-wrapped straight from the pharmacy that delivers to him. I am at his house to wait for the delivery and the Dr. name and prescription are all over the packaging. I always open it myself and I know that it is REAL because the DR and Pharmachy would go to jail over giving a guy with AIDS fake GH. $500.00 divided by 126 IU=$03.97 per IU. I get the 06mg per vial kind. That is = to 18 IU. the box and insert say. 18 times 07 = 126 So, I was just wonderin if he was jacking me around on the price since he does not pay a fucking penny for any of it. AM IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 17, 2000 03:37 PM
Anabolic Man, Dude you got the same hook up I do. I get the 6mg vials from Serano. blue and white box. Shrink wrapped too. Of course when he gives it to me he peels the Rx sticker off. Still $500 is really cheap. I was finding people who were selling a box of seven vials for $1700.oo And can you believe people were buying them up? The guy that posts sometimes on here Ellis that is that big HGH user living in Mexico, he says he gets it for around $8 per i.u. In Mexico, that is the Humatrope brand at 4mg. So it is hard to beat Mexican prices here. Have you ever heard anything about him? Is he worth dealing with? Oh and how much are you taking? AM or Pm injections? IP: Logged |
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 17, 2000 05:20 PM
Emai me bro. AM IP: Logged |
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 17, 2000 05:26 PM
Jae, email bro. AM IP: Logged |
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Jae Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 19 |
posted August 18, 2000 09:30 AM
Yo, dude I hit you up on the email last night. Jae IP: Logged |
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 18, 2000 11:27 AM
Can you email me again? I did not get it? AM
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Anabolic Man Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 18 |
posted August 18, 2000 11:30 AM
Email me at: [email protected] or IP: Logged |
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