posted August 15, 2000 02:40 PM            

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posted August 15, 2000 02:49 PM            

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posted August 15, 2000 03:02 PM            

Nubain users do suffer from withdrawal symptoms if they stop taking their drug of choice. Nubain withdrawal resembles a bad case of the flu. Symptoms include fever, tiredness, body ache, diarrhea, sneezing, and anxiety. Some ex-users experience even more severe symptoms

Although Nubain is not specially scheduled by the FDA, the dosing patterns of Nubain users indicate that it is a powerfully addictive drug.

A few bodybuilders use Stadol or Torbugesic instead of Nubain. Both Stadol (butorphanol tartrate) and Torbugesic (the veterinary version of Stadol) are about ten times stronger than Nubain. Two mg/cc of Stadol has the same effect of 20 mg/cc of Nubain! Although they are not scheduled by the FDA, these two drugs are more difficult to find on the black market than Nubain.

A little science. Narcotic drugs attach to one or more of the three opiate receptors (delta, kappa, and mu). The most potent of these analgesics hit all three receptors, while Nubain primarily binds at the kappa receptor, and has a mixed agonist/antagonist action at the delta receptor.

Our prime candidate is tramadol hydrochloride, known in America as Ultram, which comes in a 50 mg tablet. It is also available in 50 mg capsules in Mexico as TRADOL, and costs about $20

for ten capsules. NOBLIGAN, another version of tramadol, is a real buy at $10 for ten capsules if you can find it. It was when Oliver Star and I previously discussed withdrawal protocols, when he mentioned that he had found an oral sedative to replace Nubain, the Ultram.

To start the process of withdrawal without symptoms, immediately stop using all Nubain, and start taking 50 mg of tramadol, three times a day. Tramadol only binds at the delta receptor, so it makes Nubain withdrawal much easier. You won�t feel any euphoria, but you also won�t feel the flu-like symptoms of an unassisted withdrawal. For the first week, take three 50 mg doses of tramadol a day. For the second week, take two per day, and take only one per day during the last week. After three weeks, you will feel relatively normal. The only side effects that may linger are sneezing or coughing, and perhaps a slight feeling of tiredness.

Tramadol is not strong enough for some female Nubain users. They need a stronger oral analgesic before they progress to tramadol. The best choice is TEMGESIC (buprenophine hydrochloride) sublingual tablets from Mexico. (Although there is an injectable version in the US called BUPRENEX, you want to avoid injectable compounds.) Temgesic is Schedule V in the US and prescription-only in Mexico. Unfortunately, it�s not cheap---about $25 for ten tablets in Tijuana pharmacies.

After complete Nubain cessation, women should use only one Temgesic sublingual (each tab contains .2 mg). Temgesic binds at the delta receptor for a very long time, which makes it effective for up to up to 24 hours. Use the Temgesic once daily for a week, and then switch to the tramadol protocol.

posted August 15, 2000 03:18 PM            

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If it doesn't hurt getting it, then it's not worth having...

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